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- From: murugadas (@ 210.186.103.77)
on: Thu Jun 3 00:42:54 EDT 2004
Off-topic alright.
But why post it here?
We are following a certain topic for the past two years plus.
It is better for it not to be interrupted with other messages.
What will happen if everyone follows your example and posts off-topic things here?
The above is certainly a useful piece of information.
You can put such information in a separate thread.
All people can see it, if it appears in the 'Hot Topics' section.
- From: Vignesh (@ emea-nc01.oracle.co.uk)
on: Thu Jun 3 01:46:30 EDT 2004
Murugadas Sir,
Sorry about that post.My reasoning was that since lot of people do follow this thread now and lot of new people will read this valuable thread in the future,it will reach a wider audience.I won't repeat this again.Sorry.
- From: murugadas (@ 210.186.103.100)
on: Thu Jun 3 12:44:23 EDT 2004
:-)
Its alright.
I know your intentions were good.
It is also a valuable information.
But I was worried somewhat.
Nowadays people join email groups and do nothng else but use it as a bulletin board for their private enterprises. There are also people who make use of these entities for their blogs.
Thats why I had to make an alert.
- From: murugadas (@ 210.186.103.62)
on: Wed Jun 16 07:06:04 EDT 2004
VaLLimalai Swamigal went to VaLLimalai on 07-06-1916. It was on a Shashti day. The Kumbahabhishekam of the temple was taking place.
Swamiji sang Thiruppugalz songs and got the people involved and interested in Thiruppugzal and helped a great deal in making the Kumbhabhishekam a success. He also conducted annadhaanams as was his custom.
VaLLimalai is 25 miles from ThiruththaNi. It has been dedicated with Tiruppugalz. It is a very ancient place. It is said that there are secret passages passing from VaLLimali to ThiuththaNI.
As I said earlier, the places associated with VaLLi are all identified here.
There was very old VEnggai tree. The bark would not char if it was burned. Instead it would turn into Kunggumam. But people took pieces of the tree so much so that there is no more tree left.
It should be recalled that when Murugan was wooing VaLLi, he took the form of a VEnggai tree.
In 1956, when new steps were built for climbing VaLLimalai, they dismantled an old step.
There was a dark cavity from which mattippaal smoke came spewing out. The people involved with the work started vomitting blood. They could discern hazily, the figure of a Rishi inside the cave.
They closed it up.
All the other steps except that one were renewed.
There are many pools of water called sunai. In some sunais, washed clothes will be tinted yellowish if they came into contact with the stones there. It is beleived that VaLLi prepared tumeric for bathing in those sunais.
There are many caves and other places which are just perfect for performing Tapas.
There is a Murugan Temple on top of the hill. There is also a temple dedicated to VaLLi; it is hewn from a single rock.
One of the mysteries here, is the Paataala Ganggai which never dries up, even during the driest of the summers.
The Brahmothsavam takes place in the month of Maasi.
So, this was the special place which was destined and predicted to be life-giving place for the revival of Thiruppugalz.
- From: murugadas (@ j51.spt20.jaring.my)
on: Fri Jun 18 10:56:23 EDT 2004
Mr.Balachandran from Kuala Lumpur has compiled this thread and said that this thread is now exceeding 150 web-pages.
And there is more to come.
He is also thinking of taking out the parts that deal directly with Kandhar Shashti Kavacam and compile them.
VaLLimalai SwamigaL, Ramana MahaRishi, Seshadri SwamigaL, Kandha Puranam and other such topics can be compiled separately.
- From: murugadas (@ 210.186.103.7)
on: Wed Jun 23 03:16:29 EDT 2004
VaLLimalai hsa several hills around. such as Ganesa Giri, Parvatha Rajan KunRu, Kanni KunRu, etc. The SwamigaL chose a place between Parvatha Rajan KunRU and Kanni KunRu. Later he went to Parvatha Rajan KunRu.
It was a wilderness with a lot of cactus shrubs.
With the help of adherents he started clearing the place. He sustained himself with cactus fruits for the first two days.
For forty eight days, he would go around the hill, singing Thiruppugalz songs.
During the circumambulence, he would rest at a spring called THEn KunRu.
One day, he could hear a very melodious Veenai music. His disciples also heard it. The music lasted for several hours.
- From: murugadas (@ 210.186.103.122)
on: Wed Jun 23 03:28:14 EDT 2004
The people around came and flocked around the SwamigaL and, showing great interest in Thiruppugalz, learned it.
The SwamigaL, with a sole and single intense intention, taught them Thiruppugalz without any partiality towards any caste, creed, or status.
At that time, the SwamigaL had a Thiru Odu - Alms Bowl and a small piece of loin cloth. That was all that were his possessions.
The people put a pot in the hill in which they would bring and pour food stuff like porridge, and mashed cereal paste.
The man who once ate sumptuous and luscious feats in the Palace of the King of Mysore, would enjoy old and stale porridge and eat it with gusto as if he were drinking the divine celestial nectar.
Ho would also give that food freely to anyone who asked for it.
The village people made it a habit of working in the field during the day time and coming to the SwamigaL to learn and sing Thiruppugalz during the night.
- From: murugadas (@ 210.186.103.122)
on: Wed Jun 23 03:48:35 EDT 2004
During some silent nights, very melodious strains of some divine music can be heard.
Vedic chanting also can be heard. Sometimes, there wil be sound of young damsels dancing the Kummi Dance.
This music has been heard by many people.
Until that time, the SwamigaL was singing Thiruppugalz based on its chanhdam rhythm and rhyme.
Because of the fact that our SwamigaL heard this Divine Music very often, and with the Divine Grace of the Ichcha Sakthi VaLLiyammai, he developed a vast intrinsic knowledge of music. He would sing the songs according to the meanings, the land for which it was sung, and the mood, and the time and day. This was in accordance to the 'paN Vaguppu' like that of the ThEvaram Hymns.
He developed the ingenuity of setting the lyrics to the appropriate raaga tunes and the thaaLam beats.
His Njaana Viiram and Bhakthi Love which were absorbed by the realisation of Divine Truth, took the form of an outflow of a flood of music.
Thiruppugalz recital would take place with hundreds of disciples all throughout the night.
The SwamigaL would infuse courage stemmed in Thiruppugalz into the hearts of quailing disciples who would be scared to climb the hills during the darkness of nights.
The wilderness that was the home to snakes and tgers was no danger to the adherents of Thiruppugalz.
How much courageous faith, the SwamigaL would have had, in order to inspire such courage in the hearts of others in the midst of such a wilderness of snakes and tigers?
- From: murugadas (@ 210.186.103.84)
on: Wed Jun 23 04:06:14 EDT 2004
Occassionally bright luminiscent light was seem emanating from Ganesa Giri and others.
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