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- From: Kanchana (@ spider-ti072.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Dec 30 09:11:55
Dr. Kattabommu,
Before I went on my Christmas break, I'd only read your initial charge of "lack of intellectual integrity" against Su.Ra. Even though you have not clearly substantiated your claim, I respect it as your individual perception.
Subsequently, Venkat, Murugan, and Vanchinathan have asked for specific passages or sections from Su.Ra.'s works that support your assessment of "Nazi/Brahminical aspirations" behind his literary works. You have come back with the example of JJ and his thoughts, from Su.Ra.'s "JJSK" novel; you've also said you're unsure whether Su.Ra. meant that to be descriptive or prescriptive/normative.
I understand you don't have the novel with you, just like most of us here. Some of us are planning to get that novel's reprint which is available now, and analyze it in this thread like a cyber-book club, as much as our schedules would allow. Why don't you join that discussion too, and contribute with the specifics of your assessment?
It is a worthwhile cause to analyze any important author's works, the underlying philosophies, and their implications. Honest, objective, and differing perspectives are also necessary for any discussion to be fruitful.
As an aside which may or may not belong in this discussion, there is a school of thought which claims that the Nazi intellectuals(!) took Niteche's ideas of The Superman and the will to power, and twisted it to suit their own purposes. My views on existentialism as such are quite unfavorable; I'll refrain from further comments on that subject, since they don't belong here, now.
Hope to see you join our book discussion on JJSK and share more specifics in the near future. Thank you.
Dr. Kanchana Dhamodharan.
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On a personal note, my wishes for a Happy Y2K to all the literary enthusiasts here.
- From: Era.Murugan (@ 131.241.26.63)
on: Thu Dec 30 10:44:56
Kanchana, Vanchi
I remember reading this long back. If my memory is correct, it was in a seial of literary articles in Kalki by Ki.Rajendran under the pen name Kuttikrishnan - introducing modern literary works in Tamil like Thi.Jaa's Amma VandhAL, Jayakanthan's Samukam enpadhu nAlu pEr and Su.RA's Our PuLiamarathin kAthAi (Interesting to note in retrospective I was introduced to Su.Raa by Kalki).
In the article about PuLia Marathin Kathai, RAjendran quotes Su.Raa as saying "It is not an author's job to prepare pillow cases for acknowledged doctrines" ("͙ כ晐 ҍ (ƀ) ׳ ң ׀ ր").
How can such a rebel be brahmincal / nazi in his perspective?
- From: murug (@ 131.241.26.63)
on: Thu Dec 30 10:58:56
The quote from Su.Raa in Tamil might have appeared as junk in my previous posting. Let me try it now.
͙ כ晐 ҍ (ƀ) ׳ ң ׀ ր
- From: Kanchana (@ spider-ti034.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Dec 30 11:42:56
Murugan,
Thank you for sharing that. My personal perception from Su.Ra.'s fiction, non-fiction and the two pieces posted in this thread: his writings reflect experimentation and evolution over time, not the desire to please the establishment or anyone else through his writing.
Different readers walk away with different perceptions of a writer, based on their personal worldview and biases. Unless backed by a clear, specific, literary analysis, they all remain just that--perceptions.
Kanchana.
- From: Sureshkumar (@ user-2ivev2t.dialup.mindspring.com)
on: Fri Dec 31 22:16:52
Dr. Kanchana, thank you for the article and the other interviews.
Kanchana, Murugan & other friends,
Interesting discussion. Very different thinking from different people.
HAPPY 2000!!!!!
- From: ma. sivagnanam (@ 203.106.49.143)
on: Sun Jan 2 07:29:28 EST 2000
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- From: ̑ (@ 205.177.170.136)
on: Sun Jan 2 11:02:30 EST 2000
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- From: ̑ (@ 205.177.170.136)
on: Sun Jan 2 11:05:49 EST 2000
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- From: ̑ (@ 205.177.170.136)
on: Sun Jan 2 11:08:59 EST 2000
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- From: venkat (@ dhcp22-25.riken.go.jp)
on: Sun Jan 2 20:41:02 EST 2000
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on: Sun Jan 2 21:24:04 EST 2000
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- From: ̑ (@ 205.177.170.114)
on: Mon Jan 3 09:01:40 EST 2000
Copy\pasting Venkat's posting:
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- From: Ramji (@ 205.177.170.114)
on: Mon Jan 3 09:10:32 EST 2000
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