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- From: An. subramanian (@ 61.11.81.76)
on: Fri Feb 6 07:02:10 EST 2004
Dear Shri Padmanabhan,
to me sir,the me is imperfect in the first place.
ironically, I do not have any thing more except me and my reactions to the present challanges.consider me as an human being living in the deep forest of africa.no knowledge of God or any thing.
The me always reacts, out of my experiences(I do not know about incarnations.....but by my DNA factors too.)to the present challenges
so whatever I formulate is having the seed of yesterday.With respect ,including perfection or imperfection of me or God.
It is my belief even in worldly order,perfection means never stagnant...its changing ...new challenges every time.
On the lighter side...we lost our tails in this continuous process but dont know what we are going to get .
but if i am bound by my yesterdays,(all the knowledge) there is no today and tommorow .So i think i will be always be a slave in the time chain.
"(Will not life be a boring experience if we live in a perfect system..with nothing to contribute because any action will lead to imperfection!)"
there is awareness,and peace if the time as me doesnt interlude in the now.
so now what is time ,sir? time being me and any one. is it real or a mirage?
thank you sir.
- From: T.N.Padmanabhan (@ ppp-219-65-132-222.bng.vsnl.net.in)
on: Tue Feb 10 13:13:11 EST 2004
Dear Subramanian,
to the question that nature is in order but is it perfect...
As nature keeps changing, if its perfect then every moment old is being dissolved & a new perfect system comes into existence. But due to our limitation we see it only as continuity of the old.
Or nature keeps changing because its evolving towards perfection.
or is there some othe possibility.i do not know.
Now leaving the above question as it is not going to solve my or humanity's problems, i come to the point what is time ?
To me time is thought and thought being me ( because at the moment of thinking i & my thought are the same)me/thoufght is always past/old..
The question is me/thought is real or mirage, i do not know. I will try to live with that question & see whether i get any answer.
thank you.
- From: An. Subramanian (@ 61.11.80.247)
on: Fri Feb 13 09:24:10 EST 2004
Dear shri T.N.Padmanabhan,
"nature is changing....".to me te seems perfectly correct.
on the otherhand we are not that easily changing.
as a doer, a thief who is quite used to break the windows , will be for ever breaking the windows even though the doors are all the time kept wide opened!!
as a viewer of a serious crime,is also influenced by the happening that the criminal is always a criminal in the viewers idea.Perhaps in the time intervel the criminal might have changed.
then at the core ,pain, hunger ,thirst,and all most all human unqualified truths(not that "I am very hungry"...or "the pain is not very much"and out of politness saying that "just now i had meals at home"(even though I am hungrey).plain truths,
or unqualified truths are all seeming to be real to me .
like to share your views, sir.
thanking you
An.Subramanian.
- From: T.N.Padmanabhan (@ ppp-219-65-143-227.bng.vsnl.net.in)
on: Thu Feb 19 13:08:51 EST 2004
Dear Subramanian
Pain, hunger sorrow etc. are facts but to say my pain, my hinger, my sorow, is it truth?
physically we are different human beings, but psychologically r we different? is not the hunger, sorow, pain we suffer is same for all, even though it may vary in intensity, exist at different moment of time & causes may be different.
I remember J.Krishnaji saying that there is no individual sorrow, there is only sorrow of humanity.He never accepted the existence of individual as u different from me( ofcourse physically we r different)!
Can we live in a state where there is only universal mind, not your mind or my mind, your love or my love, your intelligence or my intelligence, but only universal mind, universal love, universal intelligence. that means not living in fragmnetation but living in WHOLE.
Thank you sir.
- From: http://www.valaippoo.blogspot.com/ (@ 141.156.201.226)
on: Fri Feb 20 12:10:28 EST 2004
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- From: Rajesh (@ 203.145.188.4)
on: Wed Mar 3 05:03:59 EST 2004
Dear Sir,
I would like to ask you how do you know that JK wa a great philosopher? Is it known to you or you have heard about it from people. If it is known, sensibility directs that with your training in this world, you wouldnt ask this question. If he is unknown, why ask this question?
I would rather be delighted if the same question was put back to oneself: What I want to know? Knowing what one wants to know as a primary knowledge( natural: without any biases or conditioning of past or for that matter future) wouldn't make you want understand whats not relevant to you. Listen to the winds with your own ears and not borrowed ears! Please...Look for yourself and don't ask.
Regards
- From: Anshuman (@ 207.40.151.167)
on: Wed Mar 3 07:22:52 EST 2004
Dear Mr. Rajesh I dont think it is asking. It is more of breeding familiarity.
- From: An.subramanian (@ 210-210-38-84.lan.sify.net)
on: Wed Mar 3 09:26:35 EST 2004
dear shree Rajesh
here we are not asking.we are listening....
As for the view of shree Anshuman is concerned,(breeding familiarity not asking)both are same .
unless you know what you want, you cant ask for any thing. so you are already familiar with what you are going to ask. please correct me if i am wrong.
regards
- From: padmanabhan (@ ppp-219-65-136-214.bng.vsnl.net.in)
on: Fri Apr 2 12:46:16
Dear friends,
About sayings oh JK, the one that struck me most was his statement that :Truth is a pathless land"
Where as many mnay other saints & sages like Sankracharya, Ramanujam, Ramakrishna Paramahansa, Buddha etc. laid emphasis on different methods to find truth/God, JK said that one can not come up on TRUTH by following any method & what he said supporting his above statement on different occasions seem quite right & rational. As JK was as much GOD realised as other siants mentioned above, his words that "TRUTH IS....." seems very diamatrically oppsoite to what others have said.
Any explnation please?
- From: An.subramanian (@ 210-210-39-247.lan.sify.net)
on: Tue Apr 6 01:13:11 EDT 2004
Dear Mr padmanabhan,
as per my understanding, through his sayings truth is everlastingly a moving awareness.
there can be perception of it..but the second we try to explain it...it goes behind the firewall of time.for instance a speeding vehicle..you can persive the speed ..the gush of wind.. the sound and all that.but if you try to convey the happening in words" A car is going very fast"
you are telling the past action, as the car by the time moved away the point you try to interpret it in words to the other point and gone!!!
so its either knowledge or awareness
Jk excluded.
thanks
subramanian.
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