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- From: v (@ dialup-mum-203.94.226.40.bol.net.in)
on: Tue Jun 1 00:53:56 EDT 2004
If one looks at sumerian and sanskrit as well as tamil we will find
that the word "ra"in c.tamil it became "irai-iraivan"sanskrit"isha-
ishvar"when this 'ra"is suffixed with "ma"karam which here is c.tamil
"am"/"em"and in sanskrit"ma-ma"reflects the presence of "ra"in the
self" ma"When shiva told parvati that i will be seeking ram in
myself in the form of monkey(hanuman)he was telling that he will be
witness to the play of lord vishnu the path finder in the form of
Lord Ram.
- From: v (@ dialup-mum-203.94.226.40.bol.net.in)
on: Tue Jun 1 00:55:51 EDT 2004
There is also a belief among aryologists that entire mystical
outpour in Tamil is a copy of vedanta Which is not actually true.I
strongly feel some of the Tamil works if not all were precedents for
vedantic thoughts displayed in sanskrit works .
Lord Krishnas name
be=karuppan,krupan,krushan,krishan,krishnan,kisan.
Or
kannan ,kanha,krinha,krishna,kishan
In oral tradition one who views sanskrit closely will find that
the language is Sumerian Tamil With alphabets Like "s""sh"used
extensively as embedding the words and wrapping it for continuity in
pronounciation.As i had earlier told you that apart from generating
3 orders of consonents sanskrit introduced this conjunction
characters between words and within to allow seamlessrecitation
which is absent in any sumerian or old scriptual presentation.If one
can identify and remove them we come closer to sumerian tamil.
Ariya=Scarce, Arinthavan=with knowledge,Arivu=Knowledge
Thiruvidam=thiravidam=dravidam
thirumozhi=thiramozhi=thramizh=thamizh=tamil(todays slang)
thiruvidan=thravidan=dravidan.
Since white skin people where first contacted by the people they
might have coined this term arya/aiyaw(todays slang)
Arinthavan has nothing to do with the term arya neither it is noble
as posed in the context of arya.
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- From: v (@ dialup-mum-203.94.226.40.bol.net.in)
on: Tue Jun 1 00:56:27 EDT 2004
The Goal of this forum is to establish The root language which could have become the first structured language of the world.
As one Knows mesopatomian civilization has been one of the oldest civilization of the world.
The language developed by them now called as sumerian is none other than Proto- Tamil.
This civilization is atleast 10000 years old and a reference to this civilization is in 2500 years old tamil literature as kumeri-(.sumer).
Tamils are Known for having established three literary academys running into 12000 years(a 10th century Ad work attributes this.). in all. The available literature today is of the last of these academies dating upto 1000bc.the rest is lost in the deluge or transmigration.
While attempt is on to recover the sumerian literature in Tamil form the same is considered to be the work of First tamil sangam.
You would be surprised to know that sanskrit or rg krit is an offshoot of sumerian tamil.
Efforts are on to read it as tamil.
the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do; and nothing will be restrained from them, which they have
it is right.
- From: v (@ dialup-mum-203.94.226.40.bol.net.in)
on: Tue Jun 1 01:00:45 EDT 2004
Dear Rajendran,
Thanks for the comparison, but it is not persuasive. Perhaps we
should let those interested to pursue the subject to their logical
conclusion.
Regards,
Sathia
--- In tamil_araichchi@yahoogroups.com, Rajendrans@a... wrote:
> Dear Sathia,
>
> In regarding to the above subject, let us take tamil and telugu
which are mother and daughter or sister leanguages.
>
> But there are some words in telugu that I cannot find a route in
tamil though the word are certainly dravidian. For example 'Valappu'
meaning Love, 'naluppu' meaning black could not be determined with a
corresponding tamil word ( as far as my knowledge goes.)
>
> Rajedran
>
> In a message dated 5/22/2004 6:15:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ssathia@h... writes:
>
> >
> >
> > Dear Rajendran,
> >
> > I would appreciate your reasons and supportive data for stating
the
> > that not all Sumerian words can be equated to Tamil words. Perhaps
> > you have something that you would like to share with us.
> >
> > I am sure Raghava too appreciate.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Sathia
> >
> >
> > --- In tamil_araichchi@yahoogroups.com, Rajendrans@a... wrote:
> > > Sathia and Raghavan,
> > >
> > > Even if Sumerian were sumerotamil, not all sumerian words can
be
> > equuated to tamil words.
> > >
> > > If you can equate all then there is some thing wrong in the
> > approach.
> > >
> > > Rajendran.
> > >
> > > In a message dated 5/21/2004 5:17:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > ssathia@h... writes:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Tolkaappiyar@yahoogroups.com, "ssathia"
> > wrote:
> > > > Dear Raghava,
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for the effort. I think that you are on the right
track
> > > >
> > > > 1. Kish(Sumerian) = kiiz (Tamil: East)
> > > >
> > > > Kish lies between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, about 8
miles
> > (13
> > > > kilometers) EAST of the site of Babylon in what is now Iraq.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2. Ur(Sumerian) = Ur(Tamil: a suffix for a name of a tawn)
> > > >
> > > > Ur was one of the first village settlements founded (circa
4000
> > BC)
> > > > by the =
> > > >
> > > > so-called Ubaidian inhabitants of Sumer. So it could have been
> > just
> > > > known
> > > > as uur.
> > > >
> > > > 3. Eridu (Sumerian) = ThuRai( Tamil :harbour)
> > > >
> > > > Eridu was most likely founded close to the Persian Gulf near
the
> > > > mouth of
> > > > the Euphrates river, but with accumulation of silt at the
> > shoreline
> > > > over
> > > > the millennia, the remains of the city are now some distance
from
> > the
> > > > gulf =
> > > >
> > > > at Abu Shahrain in Iraq.
> > > >
> > > > For Nippur, I am not able to link it with inippur as
suggested. I
> > > > think it =
> > > >
> > > > had something do with the gods Enlil and his consort Ninlil as
> > there
> > > > were
> > > > great temples for them. Perhaps Nippur was named after the God
> > Ninlil.
> > > >
> > > > Also for Lagash, I am not able to link it with ilaikaadu.
Lagash
> > was
> > > > also
> > > > known as Sirpula. A low, long line of ruin mounds are still
there
> > > > today.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Sathia
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Tolkaappiyar@yahoogroups.com, "thigazh azhagan"
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > --- ±Ã¢Ð-ШÃ/¨Ã¾¢/þ¨ÃÐ/±Ã¢Ð.
> > > > > ¸¢‰-¸¢ú/¸¢ÆììÌ-it could be an eastern corner/facing east/
> > downtown.
> > > > > ĸ‰-þĸ‰-þĸ¢ð-þĸ¡Î-þ¨Ä¸¡Î.
> > > > > ¯÷-is only suffix-like-¯¨Ãä÷
> > > > > ¿¢ôâ÷-þ¿¢ôâ÷.
> > > > > In Tolkaappiyar@yahoogroups.com, "ssathia"
wrote:
> > > > > > Dear Raghava,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The following are the names of some of the Sumerian towns:
> > > > > > Eridu, Nippur, Lagash, Kish, and Ur.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How would you render them in present Tamil?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Sathia
> > > > --- End forwarded message ---
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
- From: v (@ dialup-mum-203.94.226.40.bol.net.in)
on: Tue Jun 1 01:01:31 EDT 2004
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