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- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ cache-mtc-ae05.proxy.aol.com)
on: Wed Dec 1 21:04:20 EST 2004
//"eNkuNaththaan thaaLai vaNangkaath thalai" (kuraL).//
The common definition given to this kural, is that right? There are people who say that 30 kurals in Thirukkural were inserted into the Thirukkural at a later time and wasn't in the original Kurals that Thiruvalluvar wrote.
//As between Japanese and Tamil, researches are going on. I shall rever to them in due course and let you know, thiru Neduncheziyan avargale!!//
nanRi
THIRU A P MASILMANI avargaLae!
paNnivu __/\__
//The word sengunthan also denotes a position in the military, like the word "lance corporal".//
Does the word 'Sengunthan' have any connection with the Cheran 'Chenkuttuvan?' What does Chenkuttuvan means?
- From: Chandrashekar (@ chrtfw.charteredsemi.com.sg)
on: Wed Dec 1 23:51:31 EST 2004
Hello Thiru Masilamani,
I think the work Vidhavai (widow in Tamil), is derived from the sankrit work Vidhva as it is very close to the english word Widow. Let me know if I'am right.
Also let me know what is the pure Tamil word for Widow..
Thanks
- From: Chandrashekar (@ chrtfw.charteredsemi.com.sg)
on: Wed Dec 1 23:53:34 EST 2004
I mean, Sanskrit word is original and Tamil word is derived from it as the Sanskrit word is very close to English word...
- From: A P MASILAMANI (@ cache203.156ce.maxonline.com.sg)
on: Thu Dec 2 08:25:55 EST 2004
Thiru Chandrashekar,
Vithavai may be Indo-European in origin, and may have been taken from Skrt. Pure Tamil word is "KaimpeN".
Regards.
- From: A P MASILAMANI (@ cache203.156ce.maxonline.com.sg)
on: Thu Dec 2 09:16:43 EST 2004
//wasn't in the original Kurals that Thiruvalluvar wrote.//
Thiru Neduncheziyan avargale! No way to confirm. Even if someone else wrote and inserted it, it must have occurred long before; the word "thaaL" was then already in use.
//connection with the Cheran 'Chenkuttuvan//
No connection with the Cheran. Kuttuvan was from Kuttanaadu. "Kuttuthal" here is said to mean "Ethiriyaik kuttuthal". Kuttuthal: kuttaiyakkuthal (making the other smaller in battle or thalaiyil kuttuthal: knocking with one's knuckles on the head of another
Senguntham: kuntham = stave or stick. Senguntham is a stick which is held upright when marching.
(Senguththaaka pidikkum kOl).
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nanRi.
- From: A P MASILAMANI (@ cache203.156ce.maxonline.com.sg)
on: Thu Dec 2 09:26:26 EST 2004
Thiru Neduncheziyan.
You did not ask if Kuttuvan became "Kutty" - now a caste title in Kerala!! Some researchers think so.
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ cache-mtc-ae05.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Dec 2 19:25:46 EST 2004
nanRi Thiru A P MASILMANI avargaLae!!
What is an equivalent word for the word 'Luck?' People use 'athistam' but thats either sanskiritized Thamizh word or a sanskirit word.
I once heard from someone that Thamizhars had 16 or more different age sections. For instance in English say you'd have Child age, Teenage then adult etc ( I don't know if there are anything in between those in English). Anyhow, do you know those stages in Thamizh? Would you please list them?
nanRi, vaNnakkam
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ cache-mtc-ae05.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Dec 2 19:26:37 EST 2004
//"Kutty"//
Isn't kutty also mean 'peN'(female) in Malayalam? Like eE peN
- From: shoba (@ 220.226.13.186)
on: Sat Dec 4 01:38:01 EST 2004
your site details tell me
- From: A P MASILAMANI (@ cache203.156ce.maxonline.com.sg)
on: Sun Dec 5 06:24:24 EST 2004
Thiru Neduncheziyan avargale!
PeN paruvangaL 7:-
pEthai 5 to 7
pethumpai 8 - 11
mankai 12 - 13
madanthai 14 - 19
arivai 20 - 25
therivai 26 - 31
pEriLampeN 32 - 40
You can get a few more by including mUthAtti, kizavi and so on, but I do not think there are any defined ages for them. If amy author gives such a list of more than 7, we shall exchange it for knowledge.
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