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what is the origin of ezhava
what is the origin of ezhava
Topic started by gauthams (@ dialpool-210-214-242-248.maa.sify.net) on Tue Mar 26 02:19:54 .
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I want to know about the caste ezhava
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- From: poorGuy (@ pigeon.lac.co.jp)
on: Tue Mar 26 04:16:07
Narayana guru told
"Oru jathy oru matham"
slip of the toung he missed oru in between it became
"Oru jathy matham"
- From: Anil (@ dialpool-210-214-6-49.maa.sify.net)
on: Mon May 13 02:19:04
It is said Ezhavas were budhists before sankaracharya started his hindu renaissance. Or let us look in this way. Budhism was a dominant religion before this guy from Kaladi. It cannot be that all the followers of budha suddenly disappeared into thin air. At present there are very few budhists in kerala,they must have been converted to hinduism. This may be the reason that ezhavas and thiyyas have a separate identity apart from the main stream Hinduism.
Anil
- From: Ramadas (@ 194.126.42.61)
on: Mon May 13 06:19:12
It is said, that the original "Eezhavas" were
migrants from SriLanka into Kerala.
Eezham means SriLankan Tamil area. There are so many similiarlities of the old Eezhava community with
that of the SriLankan Tamils. After Guruswamy's teachings their customs have changed a lot to the modern Eezhava community.
- From: ARUNA GOVINDAN (@ )
on: Sat Jun 29 02:15:27
I am a thiyya and I want to know all about our culture , religion , caste status , and origins. Could you enlighten me please...I am curious.
- From: ARUNA GOVINDAN (@ )
on: Sat Jun 29 02:16:50
I am a thiyya and I want to know all about our culture , religion , caste status , and origins. Could you enlighten me please...I am curious.
- From: P.N.Kumar (@ 202.152.1.146)
on: Sat Jun 29 05:37:43
St.Enathinathar - one of the 63 Saivaite Nayanmars - is said to be born in this community -
Ezakulam from a village called Eyinanur in Chola Country.
His profession was toddy-tapping. And he was also well trained in martial arts and working as a fencing master to the Chola King.
He was great devotee of Sivan and once during a fierce fight with somebody from the enemy camp, he happened to notice holy ash behind his shield and suddenly stopped the fight. The enemy who obviously came in the disguise of a Sivanadiyar went ahead and accomplished his intention.
Between the guise - perfidious as it was well known to be - and Lord Sivan Himself, St.Enathinathar saw no difference. Hence the inclusion among nayanmars.
- From: Anish Anand (@ orange.sysarris.soft.net)
on: Tue Jul 2 05:39:03
Even am i curious about the same.Are your views based on history or assumption?.Please let me know more about it,as i was born and brought up in Bangalore.
- From: vinod (@ sjcd-webcache-4.cisco.com)
on: Mon Aug 5 19:17:00
All,
Actually ezhavas/thiyyas are Europeans. they migrated to south india from Greece. if you actually want to know more details check the book
"Influx- Creet to kerala" By BY M.M. AnanthRam
cheers,
vinod.
- From: shailen (@ dialpool-210-214-22-4.maa.sify.net)
on: Sun Aug 11 16:38:27
hi all,
though ezhavas and thiyyas have the same social
status, IMHO i dont think that they have the
same origin.
ezhavas, definetely have some similarities to the
srilankan culture where as thiyya culture is more
or less similar to that of the minonian culture
of crete (an island near to greece). the later
theory was officially proposed by M. M. Ananth Ram, based on his deligent studies. if anyone is
interested in pursuing this, please refer
encyclopaedia britannica. start from index: tiryns
thanks,
_shail
- From: vinod (@ sjcd-webcache-4.cisco.com)
on: Thu Aug 15 21:26:33
If anyone know where I can get the book "Crete to Kerala". please let me know
thanks,
vinod
- From: Raju Raghavan (@ hestia.ext.eurgw.xerox.com)
on: Thu Aug 29 08:34:51
I want to write a book with the amalgamation of acastes as a background. For this I want somebody to help me with the history of the evolution of the Ezhavas and if there was any conversion to Christianity.
- From: Karan Raghavan (@ hestia.ext.eurgw.xerox.com)
on: Thu Aug 29 08:38:31
During the sixties it was the custom for pregnant mothers to go to Ketal to deliver thier child. is t
I know a person who was the first Malayali and the first Ezhava to be born in Sikkim because his parent s did not have the money then to go to Kerala by train. That man later became one of the richest businessmen of the region.
- From: Karan Raghavan (@ hestia.ext.eurgw.xerox.com)
on: Thu Aug 29 08:38:56
During the sixties it was the custom for pregnant mothers to go to Ketal to deliver thier child. is t
I know a person who was the first Malayali and the first Ezhava to be born in Sikkim because his parent s did not have the money then to go to Kerala by train. That man later became one of the richest businessmen of the region.
- From: Karan Joseph Raghavan (@ 203-195-136-237.now-india.net.in)
on: Thu Aug 29 13:01:05
I think that some hindus should not make fun of christians that if cristains can flesh and some hindus are vegetarians they shouldn't make fun. otherwise many realationships get broken. I have had this many times in my life so i hpe you wouldn't .I am only 11 years old in class 5 if you want to dend me any maeesaages -karan_raghavan@sify.com
- From: unknown (@ 164.164.31.3)
on: Wed Sep 11 07:24:54
Guys ... let us not create division between ezhavas and tiyyas .... I think both should merge as one ... I have ezhava relative who is married to a tiyya ... And i dont think ezhavas came from srilanka and occupaid all over kerala... They should be the earlier inhabitants of kerala.
- From: Raveen (@ h66-59-174-253.gtconnect.net)
on: Fri Sep 13 13:49:28
This thread should be in history forum, but if you go through this link
http://www.forumhub.com/tnhistory/23866.19.49.02.html
you will get some answers
- From: :) Punnahai (@ d150-35-51.home.cgocable.net)
on: Fri Sep 13 14:41:45
Does any one know about Tilavas, apparently they are a division of Eezhavas? Any info?
- From: ajay uppot (@ wc05.ym.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com)
on: Sun Sep 15 19:13:09
Well iam a thiyya, lived more than 20 years of my intial life in Kerala. Can be said allover kerala. Iam from Calicut, but did schooling Calicut, Quilon, trivandrum, Ernakulam, Thrishur also has lot of relatives from kannur, talasherry, mahe etc.
i have read anatharam book about origin of thiyyas,
my understanding is as follows,
Definitely thiyyas and ezhavas are not one. These are two different communities with different origins. Thiyyas are located mainly in north malabar (north of badagara) and ezhavas are from tranvancore. Kerala government for their administrative easiness combined them and gave them equal status as OBC.
Currently iam at toronto, ontario, canada. i can be reached through e mail
- From: Sam (@ 202.54.13.34)
on: Fri Sep 20 11:20:55
May be ezhavas and thiyyas have different origins ..but even before formation of the first kerala govt ezhava-tiyya marriage were there ...
- From: :) Punnahai (@ d221-216-98.systems.cogeco.net)
on: Fri Sep 20 14:01:11
>>even before formation of the first kerala govt <<
Sam,
Kerala govt. is a newbie formed if I am not mistaken in 1958 whereas ezhavas and thiyas must have been around for 1000s of years :)
- From: ajay (@ 216.94.253.66)
on: Mon Sep 23 12:56:48
intercaste marriages has been there in thiyya community just like other communities, thiyyas not only marry ezhavas, i know many thiyyas who have married nairs, catholics etc.
definitely ezhavas and thiyyas has been there for many centuries and kerala government was formed recently.
But definitely these are two different communities one from malabar and other from travancore
- From: Babu (@ cache5-1.ruh.isu.net.sa)
on: Fri Sep 27 10:40:46
I have heard many sarcastic words about Eezhavas from many Christians of Kottayam, Alappuzha, Pathanamthitta and Kollam districts. Anyway at Kollam, Kottayam and Ernakulam many Eezhavas have become rich. In the Medical & Engg. Kerala entrance examinations, the score of Eezhava kids are nearly equal to the kids of unreserved class. In the Eastern part of Kozhikkode and Malappuram districts, Moppila Muslims also view Thiyyas to be inferior than them financially. (It was the main reason behind Nadapuram communal clash). At Kannur, all the martyrs of CPM and RSS belong to Eezhava community. In my native place in Kottayam district many Eezhavas had joined RSS with other Hindus, but due to local bitter experiences, now they keep away from RSS and RSS controlled local Utsava committee.
- From: unknown (@ bangdp-35-142.mantraonline.com)
on: Sun Oct 6 14:59:33
upon my findings i came to know that ezhavas come from the lineage of the ancient nagas...it is said that ...this particular race is supposed to have ruled the world for a 1000 yrs and above ..and its again said that there r no waters in the world and no lands which this race has not sailed or set foot.
i'll comeup with the link for referance ...later sometime ...untill then await :)
- From: Webmaster (@ 24-90-243-117.nyc.rr.com)
on: Mon Oct 7 14:06:25
Does anyone know some convincing stories about Ezhavas origin?
- From: asoganperumal (@ 210.187.89.7)
on: Tue Oct 8 02:00:47
Soul takes rebirth to undo for its previous deeds.To be born again under certain environment means you have to live to it knowingly your purpose of being born.Arjuna cannot kill karnan. Its LORD KRISNA the director behind the whole story.Before Arjuna was instructed to sent the arrow ,KRISNA request karnan ,in disguise , to give away all his good deeds and including the deeds of the final request by KRISNA.Therefore accepting karma as an intergral aspect of living the beatings of life will take for the better.You are directly responsible for your happines and sorrow of todays living,a resultant of your action in previous births. BARAKA BASHAD.
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