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- From: Prabhu Ram (@ 202.54.18.155)
on: Thu Oct 23 01:01:08 EDT 2003
Tamil,Sanskrit,Hebrew,Chinese ,Greek and Latin are the six language for which roots have not been discovered.
Due to centuies of coexistence of Dravidians and the Aryans there has been a considerable cultural exchange, an example of which is such word sharing.Though I am no linguistic expert I am sure that Sanskrit (and thus it's derived languages) would have borrowed several words,expressions from Tamil.
- From: Raj (@ 206-97-63-112.ip.theriver.com)
on: Thu Oct 23 01:06:47 EDT 2003
vinay: Kamam is borrowed from Sanskrit. Even though Tamil is an original language, it borrowed words from Sanskrit and other languages. Sanskrit also borrowed words from Tamil. You might want to refer to some books on linguistics. The Tamil word for kamam is probably 'vetkai'
- From: R.Srinivasan. (U.S.A) (@ ip68-0-198-105.ri.ri.cox.net)
on: Fri Oct 24 20:11:23 EDT 2003
The word "KAAMAM" in Sanskrit has different meanings suiting to the context, unlike Tamil.
In Tamil it is meant only for "ORGASM" a Physical-sensation while dealing with a Male and Female, so to say in the context of SEXOLOGY.
Only in that sense in Tamil, the God of Love MANMATHAN (Husband of Rathi)is called KAAMAN or KAAMA-DHAEVAN who is also called as KAAMAARAAJAN.
Only in that sense,Kaaman-Pandikai used to be celebrated since age-old days by Tamilians all over.
But in Sanskrit KAMAAKSHI means different as also the word KAAMAKOTI and KAAMADHAENU. Here KAAMA means a high sense of WISHES / DESIRES / LIKES etc.
Kaamaakshi means the Goddess who possesses such kind Eyes to grant her devotees as per their wishes, likes and prayers.
The same meaning applies in the case of KAAMADHAENU also, with the slight different meaning for the word DHAENU as the "Giver"
- From: Idiappam (@ rhea.singnet.com.sg)
on: Mon Oct 27 09:07:50 EST 2003
If 'kama' is a Sanskrit word - then what are it root words in Sanskrit?
From this root word - what are the other words in Sanskrit that share this root word - ie, what are the words of similiar root - and sound having close meanings?
What is the ealiers ocuurence of the word 'kama' or its root in Sanskrit literature.
If you wish to proove the same - that Kamam is Tamil - then it becomes easy!
The root - kA - means desire, yearning, wanting!
An examples of derivaties of this root - kAmam, kAmuruthal - to desire, wanting, desiring etc.
As far as I know, the earliers occurence of this word(s) in Tamil is Thirukural -
1. kAmam, veguli, innaachol innangun ........
2. soRkAmuRuthal ...... desiring to speak
There a other even ealier occurences of this word(s) in Tamil Literature - I will check it up.
- From: Arunkumar (@ )
on: Tue Mar 2 04:30:58
Is tamil language is as old as Sanskrit?
Is there any tamil scripts availabe which is as old as or even older than Ramayana and MahaBharatha written in Sanskrit?
- From: Arunkumar (@ 203.200.38.93)
on: Tue Mar 2 05:55:32 EST 2004
Is there any Tamil Scripts availabe which are older than Ramayana and Mahabharatha?
- From: ÁÐÃÀ¡Ã¾¢ (@ 61.11.79.184)
on: Wed Mar 3 09:07:59 EST 2004
Arunkumar:
1. Among the Sanskrit works the two epics you have cited are not the oldest. Vedas and Upanishads much older. There is difference of opinion about their dates.
2. Tamil is as old, if not more, as Sanskrit. While excavating Mohan je Daro, archeologists came up with scripts that were very close to Tamil. A precursor of present day Tamil. From this it could be safely assumed that a language that gave birth to present Tamil, belonging to Dravidian family, was in existance even in the deep north of India.
Well, Karuvayan too must realise that Sangam works predate Thirukkural from which he has cited. And, Tirukkural, as was the practice in those days, has made use of a number Sanskrit words, grammatically adopted as laid down in Tholkappiam. So, it does not necessarily follow that all words found in Thirukkural originate strictly from Tamil.
- From: Baskaran (@ )
on: Fri Apr 9 03:42:45
1.Tamil is the Naturaly born language. but Sanskrit is a created language
2.Tamil has its own root
- From: T.Sankara Narayanan (@ 212.72.5.232)
on: Fri Apr 9 05:58:48 EDT 2004
Tamil is certainly older than Sankskrit. The first old available literature in tamil is "Tholkappium" which is dated back to BC. But around 200BC when Mouriya dynasty (Emperor Asoka" was there in north india, the language used was not Sankskrit and that was Brami script.
Emperor asoka not ashoka as mentioned in sankskrit.
Another thing is Ramayan and Mahabarath are epics only and no archealogical eveidence is there till date.
T.Sankara Narayanan
- From: Telugu (@ 61.11.78.67)
on: Thu Apr 15 05:58:42 EDT 2004
to all you Tamil fools let me tell you guys something. Tamil is no match for sanskrit which gave birth to numerous languages, just because some old tamil inscriptions are found that does not make your tamil great and i can point out atleast 50 sanskrit words in your language.don't fool yourself and try fooling others.tamil is nothing but anyother indian language which has it's roots back to a common dravidian language that was spoken in southern india some 2000 years ago later other languages came in to existance.the influence of sanskrit was greatest on the other three south indian languages than tamil which means that tamil was right royally rejected or should be a contemparory language with the other indian languages.i don not agree with all your postings.do something productive rather than debating on useless topics like this.debate on topics like the poverty in Tamilnadu and untouchability in your state.
adios
- From: Telugu (@ 61.11.78.67)
on: Thu Apr 15 06:02:20 EDT 2004
tamil is not certainly older than telugu
- From: MV Seetaraman fro VIZAG andra (@ 203.90.123.44)
on: Thu Apr 15 06:22:07 EDT 2004
I find since PC is in hand , the members are indulging in either praising oneself or mudslinging.
Tamil Sanskrit Greek Latin are the languages known for their rich development. Scholors say that as men started interacting with each other the languages are also affected by each one.
read good works either in origional or by getting the translation to enjoy the efforts put by many scholors who livied & enriched the globe
Jai Hind Vande Mataram Vanakkam andanam
- From: s (@ cache82.156ce.maxonline.com.sg)
on: Thu Apr 15 16:12:39 EDT 2004
Hey Vinay u asked whther Tamil whether derived from sanskrit
If i ask u whether ur mom sleeps with her father
as in ur grandfather ?
will that sound rite or nice .....
Never degrade Tamil associating it with sanskrit.
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