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- From: R.Srinivasan. (U.S.A) (@ ip68-0-198-125.ri.ri.cox.net)
on: Wed Jan 7 17:19:28 EST 2004
Kind Attention: ADMINISTRATORS.
Please arrange to... DELETE... all the postings here prior to the Date : December 11, 2003...
... since those are....
... Not only OUT OF THE TOPIC ....
... and Uncalled for ENCROACHMENTS...
... but also parochial and fanatic statements....
.... hurting the feelings..
... generating mutual hatred and animosity
... amongst the elite participants...
... far Contrary and denigrating the
... HEALTHY SCOPE... AND NOBLE INTENTION of ....
... this Rich Title of the Thread on "God".
Allowing those vicious wordings to exist here will only invite more and more controversies and ill-feelings amongst our...
.. RICH-MINDED participants.
So .. PLEASE ARRANGE TO DELETE IMMEDIATELY
Further I am resuming the Topic.... true to the Sense and apt Relevance of the Title.
All the like-minded participants are invited to join with me.... and make this Thread...
... Duly WORTHY.. as well as
... INTERESTING and PURPOSEFUL.
- From: RAHUL (@ 203.197.90.107)
on: Tue Jan 13 11:56:18 EST 2004
SRINIVAS:
THE ADMINISTRATOR WOULD DO NO SUCH THING AS HE IS CONVINCED THAT RABID FANATICAL FEELINGS AS U SAY ... IS WELL DESERVED WHEN THE SOCIAL MILLEAU IN TAMILNADU IS EXTREMELY FANATIC TOWARDS ONE COMMUNITY FOR NO LOGICAL REASON . PLEASE DO NOT POSE AS ONE WHO IS VERY MATURE AND ABOVE SUCH CONTROVERSIES ... WHEN YOUR FAMILY GETS TARGETTED FOR PETTY REASONS .. U WOULD REALIZE WHAT I AM SAYING.
- From: R.Srinivasan. (U.S.A) (@ ip68-0-198-125.ri.ri.cox.net)
on: Tue Jan 13 22:06:18 EST 2004
Dear mr. Rahul,
On Mr.Chudar's narrow-minded and Fanatic Sick-feeling against Brahmin-community on the whole I have already replied under the relevant Thread SOCIAL-AWAKENING SUITING TO TIME (as mentioned hereabove).
Further too on your points raised now. I have clarified to day under the same relevant Thread..
Please comment or criticise as you feel necessary, under that Thread only....being RELEVANT.
I am sorry you are mistaking me....
... my object is to only continue the Healthy Topic of this Thread ....
... and not to ALLOW ANY SICK-MINDED elements who are trying to Divert, ENCROACH and
... Thrust their unworthy stuff ... the decayed Vegetables on the visitors to a Jewellery-Shop...
... the elite participants who have come to THIS THREAD to buy JEWELLERY ONLY ....
.... and NOT THE VEGETABLES.... that too DECAYED.
- From: R.Srinivasan. (U.S.A) (@ ip68-0-198-125.ri.ri.cox.net)
on: Wed Jan 14 21:11:07 EST 2004
¸¼×û Ш½ (Kadavulh Thunhai)
Generally, at the Commencement of any Important task, the theistic-minded people all over the world, use to think of God for a short moment, silently praying towards that Omnipotent Super-Human-Power... seeking His Grace for the Success on the endavour ....
.... With a FIRM-FAITH... that... after all... the Human-being's Efforts and Initiation...
.... Can fetch FAVOURABLE Result ONLY with the GRACE of the Super-Human-Power.
So, ever since the days of God-Realisation by the Mankind, people of different Faiths used to write on their important Documents (Non-Legal) Symbolically, the terminologies denoting God in the form of the person's individual Perception and Trust.... which varies Man to Man .....
But .... since the ancient days ..... Tamilians used to write as...
... "¸¼×û Ш½".... Only...
.... at the Initiation of any writing ... on the TOP of the Palm-leaf or Paper....
Some used to write as "¯" as the prime Holy-Symbol .... as...
.... "¾¢ÕîÍÆ¢"...in the name of Goddess of Wealth ..... Lakshmi....
.... which Holy-Symbol got renamed as .... "À¢û¨Ç¡÷ ÍÆ¢" .... susequently
... in the name of Lord Vigneswara... the God....
... Who is believed to prevent Obstructions and Setbacks ...
But invariably on the NEXT LINE as "¸¼×û Ш½".... only... until recent days
What is its Significance?... Why should it be termed as Ш½ (Support)....?
This is one more example of Unique Tamilian Culture.... far different from not only the World-Human-Culture but also the Indian Culture of other regions of India.
In Tamil, for wife we call as Ш½Å¢... to mean as...
... Friend / Partner / Associate / Helper / Assistant ....
... and the Husband as Ш½Åý ... to mean as the Supporter.... as the God too termed so.
By writing as Ш½Åý for God we mean and keep in mind firmly that God is our indispensable Supporter and Leader .... on all our tasks and commitments including our day to day living itself...
... Whereas... Man must perform his BASIC and relevant Role dutifully and unfailingly...
For Example....
... The Farmer must do all the processes of Cultivation he is concerned with ...
... Within the REALM of Human-capability
... leaving the other part of the task ... the Super-Human process ...
... the "Growth of Seed as the Crop" ... ONLY....
... to Nature..... the Domain of God ...for which he has to pray for
... the God's Supportive Role ... towards END-RESULT.
Accordingly Man subtly, dutifully and sensibly accepts his due role as his commitments but puts forth his Faith in God without which all his endeavour may become futile.... he realises.
So the Man is always the SEEKER OF GODS SUPPORT.... and the God ...
... Delivers the RESULT.... as the SUPPORTER... Ш½Åý....
... Ensuring the NATURE'S ADVANCEMENT AND CONSERVATION....
... Towards the PROSPERITY of Mankind ....
Accordingly ... Tamilians symbolically used to write as .... "¸¼×û Ш½."
- From: R.Srinivasan. (@ ip68-0-198-125.ri.ri.cox.net)
on: Fri Jan 23 00:18:56 EST 2004
Why and How the Symbol " ¯" is called Thiruchuzhi or Pillaiyaar-Chuzhi?
Amongst the Hindus in general, there is a practice of writing some holy symbol at the top of the Starting-page of any important papers deserving to invoke God's grace ... such as Marriage-Invitations.
In other parts of India, most of the people write .... "Ohm"
Whereas in Tamilnadu... they write " ¯" which used to be called as Thiruchuzhi (in the name of Lakshmi) in the ancient days... but now-a-days called as Pillaiyaar-Chuzhi.
The holy Symbolic-Word.... µõ (Ohm) comprises of Three letters .... as...
.... « (A).... ¯ (U) .... Á (MA) ..... The Middle-letter of which is " ¯"
According to Vaishnava-theory ....
.... « denotes the God Supreme Vishnu
.... ¯ denotes the Goddess Lakshmi
.... Á denotes the Devotee.
But according to Saivite-Theory....
.... « denotes the God Supreme Shiva
.... ¯ denotes the God Vigneshwara
... Á denotes the Goddess Parwathi
The poets used to describe that the Lord Rama was walking in the forest... symbolically... one behind the other, which inadvertantly signified the holy word µõ Ohm....
Lord RAAMA in the lead... denoting ... the Supreme... «
Accompanied by the Lordess SEETHAA in the Middle... denoting ... Lakshmi ... ¯
Followed behind both .. by .. LAKSHMANA ... denoting the Devotee... Á
- From: P.N.Kumar (@ 202.152.27.66)
on: Fri Jan 23 02:39:54 EST 2004
In Saiva Siddhanta,
A - Almighty
U - Uma / Parasakthi
M - Maya Sakthi
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