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kambaramayanam
kambaramayanam
Topic started by Swaminathan (@ cache1.bnl.gov) on Wed Apr 3 08:41:18 .
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This is an effort to learn kamba ramayanam in an interactive manner, posting and discussing verses each day. Kamba Ramayanam is an epic in Tamil by Kambar, with more than 10,500 verses. The intricacies, poetic nuances, similes, metaphors, characterizations, descriptions and reading a vast epic in poem format makes this a unique work. The initiative is run through volunteers only. If you want to type up verses and take part in discussions, please go ahead, in this thread. Please contact Balaji Srinivasan (bb) for further details.
The master page for this project is here: http://www.dhool.com/balaji/kambar/
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- From: B.Balaji (@ ppp-219.65.96.90.chn.vsnl.net.in)
on: Tue Dec 16 10:24:16 EST 2003
Thanks Hari.It Is protocol indeed.
You Seen to get Mixed up with bb and Me (ie Balaji)
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on: Tue Dec 16 11:48:47 EST 2003
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on: Wed Dec 17 19:18:54 EST 2003
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on: Wed Dec 17 23:15:06 EST 2003
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on: Thu Dec 18 10:55:57 EST 2003
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on: Thu Dec 18 11:01:41 EST 2003
¦ºý¨É¢Öõ Ò¸ú¦ÀüÈ ¦Áâɡ Beach ¯ûǧ¾. Beach Boy ±É¢ø Á£ñÎõ †Ã¢ «Å÷¸ÙìÌì ÌÆôÀõ ¬¸¢ ŢΧÁ. ÀÍÀ¾¢ «Å÷¸§Ç §ÅÚ ¯À¡Âõ ¯Ç§¾¡?
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on: Thu Dec 18 14:16:18 EST 2003
Bay Boy Balaji ..:-))
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on: Thu Dec 18 17:36:54 EST 2003
ayyayyO, I am not Boston Balaji. He is a different person. I am bb, I always post as bb. bb stands for benzene balaji, benzene my nickname at college :) I live in Sanfrancisco bay area, two time zones away from Boston.
- From: bb (@ ouroboros.siebel.com)
on: Thu Dec 18 17:45:43 EST 2003
And Pasupathy, Beach boys suck. Not sure if you've listened to that band. I guess they were famous in the '60s and 70s, but I don't want to be a beach boy at all :)
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on: Thu Dec 18 17:52:47 EST 2003
Catching up with what Harikrishnan wrote:
My heaven is where thou art!
That was a beautiful beginning indeed for all the trials, travails and acid tests that came her way in later days. How happy she must have been when her dream came true! 'My heart has already decided and will not go back,' was what she vowed. She even went to the extent of deciding to give her life up if the person who broke the bow happened to be somebody other than Rama. 'en aasayin kani' The fruit of all my love, is one of the many ways in which she is going to refer to him, later, when put under extreme pressure by Ravana. And what a bridegroom! What a wonderful match! Which other pair can be best suited for the phrase 'made for each other!'
'buddhiman, madhurabhashi, purvabhashi, priyamvadah,' are a few of the epithets that Valmiki attributes to Rama. Intelligent, sweet spoken, willing to speak first and he was careful about the choice of words, specific about the elegance and aptness of the words that he used to express himself. He had no taste for arguments that had nothing to do with truth, righteousness and fairness. 'vakta vacaspatir yatha.' In a logical debate, he was as eloquent as the god of speech.
How happy she must have been when her husband, the joy of the people, the pride of Ayodhya, encountered the terror of kshatriyas, Parasurama, on their way from Mithila to Ayodhya, in a very calm and collected manner, as against the desperation that showed itself in the speech of her father-in-law, and quickly - practically in no time - robbed the sage of his pride. The fear that the pleadings of her father-in-law had generated in her mind must have been softened by the tremendous self-confidence with which her husband handled the situation. What can be more delightful for a new bride!
Life moved joyfully on for twelve years. There is no explicit reference about this period of twelve years either in Valmiki or in Kamban. Kamban is silent about this period. There is no mention about the time that passed from the time of marriage to the day on which Rama was decided to be appointed as the Prince Regent. This calculation is done by expert interpretations of a Sloka in Valmiki that Kausalya utters to Sri Rama when the latter is exiled. We will go into that when we study Rama.
The first twelve years were obviously spent in perfect joy, harmony and love, though both the Poets are silent about this period. The first test of character - or should we rather call it test of love - came when Sri Rama was exiled and he decided to go to the forest, alone, not taking her with him. That probably was the first argument that Devi had with her consort. An argument born of super-abundance of love. 'nin pirivinum sudumO kaadu?' she counters Rama, when the latter prefers to go to the forest alone and advises her that the life in forest is full of difficulties, miseries and sufferings. 'Would that be greater than the pangs of separation, darling!' Sita quips. 'My heaven is where thou art!'
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