Topic started by Swaminathan (@ cache1.bnl.gov) on Wed Apr 3 08:41:18 .
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
|
This is an effort to learn kamba ramayanam in an interactive manner, posting and discussing verses each day. Kamba Ramayanam is an epic in Tamil by Kambar, with more than 10,500 verses. The intricacies, poetic nuances, similes, metaphors, characterizations, descriptions and reading a vast epic in poem format makes this a unique work. The initiative is run through volunteers only. If you want to type up verses and take part in discussions, please go ahead, in this thread. Please contact Balaji Srinivasan (bb) for further details. The master page for this project is here: http://www.dhool.com/balaji/kambar/ |
Responses:
- Old responses
- From: B.Balaji (@ ppp-219.65.117.163.chn.vsnl.net.in)
on: Sun Nov 30 08:37:39 EST 2003
Sri Pasupathi
I have got a Book On Thandi alankaaram which has Text and meanings. Can we start Discussion on each Ani with Quotes From Kamban.
Can this discussion run along side the Main Presentation. Alternatively it can be a seprate Thread. I prefer this discussion also forms part of this main topic.
bb , Hari , Ananth can comment on this.
- From: Pas (@ hse-hamilton-ppp191489.sympatico.ca)
on: Sun Nov 30 17:52:11 EST 2003
Balaji:
Nice idea..I wish I had more time to contribute..
I will chip in when I have something worthwhile
to say.
There are two ways to do it. One is to give the
"best"/ "easiest to understand" Kamban example you have found. Since this
may be difficult, it may be replaced with "the
first example" of such aNi by Kamban , as we read the epic. Then in a separate table, you can keep accumulating the poem no's which contain a particular aNi. Finally, a table can be formed
which defines an aNi, as in thaNdi, then the
first usage by Kamban and all other poem nos .
As I have mentioned before, apparantly 'Kalanilayam' sEshAchala iyer ( father of writer BharaNidharan) was an expert in this and used to say that aNiyiyal should be taught with kamban's examples. If you can, I'd suggest you get K.RajagOpAlAchAriyAr's "aNiyiyal" ( Star pub.) which has many Kamban examples already. It will be make your job easier.
Pasupathy
Others can comment on this, in particular, if it would be better to start another thread or not.
A separate thread may be better to keep the flow in this thread go uninterrupted.
- From: ananthnarayanan (@ sherbrooke-hse-ppp3605177.sympatico.ca)
on: Sun Nov 30 23:22:13 EST 2003
À¡Ä¡ƒ¢:
¸.á.Å¢ø ÅÕõ «½¢¸û ÀüÈ¢ «ÄÍÅÐ ¿øÄ ¸ÕòÐò¾¡ý. ±É¢Ûõ, ¿£í¸û þíÌ ¦ºöÐÅÕõ «Ã¢Â À½¢Â¢ø, ÀÊô§À¡÷ìÌ ±¨Å Á¢¸×õ ÀÂý¾Õõ ±ýÚ ÀðÊÂÄ¢ð¼¡ø, ±ý¨Éô ¦À¡Úò¾Å¨Ã¢ø, «½¢ ¬Ã¡ö ºüÚì ¸£Æ¢¼ò¾¢ø ¾¡ý þÕìÌõ. ÀðÊÂÄ¢ø §ÁÄ¢Õì¸ §ÅñʨÅ: 1. À¢¨ÆÂüÈ, À¾õ À¢Ã¢òÐ þð¼ ãÄõ; 2. À¢¨ÆÂüÈ, ¦¾Ç¢Å¡É ¦À¡Õû ¯¨Ã 3. ¸õÀÉ¢ý, ¦º¡ø, ¦À¡Õû, ¸Å¢ þÅüÈ¢ý ¬Æò¨¾ †Ã¢ §À¡ý§È¡÷ (ÍÕì¸Á¡¸Å¡ÅÐ) þó¾ þ¼ò¾¢§Ä§Â þξø.
Ó¾ø þÃñÊø, ¿¡ý ÌÈ¢ôÀÐ (±ô§À¡¾¡ÅÐ À¡¼§À¾§Á¡ §ÅÚÅ¢¾Á¡É ¦À¡Õ§Ç¡ ¸¡Ã½Á¡¸ò ¾¢Õò¾õ ¦ºö §ÅñÊÅÃÄ¡õ ±ýÀ¨¾ò ¾Å¢Ãô) ¦ÀÕõÀ¡Öõ ¾ð¼îÍôÀ¢¨Æ¨Â§Â. «ò§¾¡Î, ¦À¡Õû¯¨Ã¢ø ÀÊôÀÅ÷¸ÙìÌ ±Ç¢¾¢ø ÒâóЦ¸¡ûÙõ Ũ¸Â¢ø ¬É ¦¾Ç¢×õ §ÅñÎõ. þíÌ ¯¨Ã¡º¢Ã¢Ââý ¦À¡Õû ¯¨Ã¨Â «Å÷ ¾ó¾Å¡§È, «ÅÃÐ ¾Á¢ú ¿¨¼Â¢ø, þÎÅÐ º¢Ä§Å¨Ç¸Ç¢ø ±Ç¢¾¢ø ÒâóЦ¸¡ûžüÌ ÓÊ¡Áø ¬ì¸¢Å¢Î¸¢ÈÐ. (þ¨¾ ¿¡ý ÓýÉõ ±ý ¾É¢ «ïºø¸Ç¢ø ÌÈ¢ôÀ¢ðÊÕ츢§Èý.) «¾üÌ Á¡È¡¸, ¸ÊÁ½ô À¼Äò¾¢ø †Ã¢ ¾ó¾Å¡Ú ¯¨Ã¡º¢Ã¢Ââý ¦À¡Õ٨âĢÕóРŢĸ¡Áø «§¾ ºÁÂõ «¨¾î ºüÚ ±Ç¢¾¡ì¸¢ þÎÅÐ Á¢ì¸ô ÀÂÉÇ¢ìÌõ. þôÀÊî ¦ºöž¢ø ¯ûÇ ¿¨¼Ó¨Èî º¢ÃÁò¨¾ ¿¡ý ¯½÷¸¢§Èý. «¾É¡ø, «ôÀÊî ¦ºöŨ¾ þô§À¡¨¾ìÌ §ÅñÎÁ¡É¡ø ¾ûÇ¢¨Åì¸Ä¡õ. «øÄÐ «ôÀÊî ¦ºö ¿£í¸û §¸ð¼Å¡Ú ÀÍÀ¾¢, †Ã¢ ¬¸¢§Â¡Ã¢ý ¯¾Å¢¨Â ¿¡¼Ä¡õ. ±ø§Ä¡ÕìÌõ §¿Ãį̀È×ô À¢Ã¨É þÕôÀ¾¡ø þ¨¾ò ¦¾¡¼÷óÐ ¦ºöž¢ø ¾¨¼ ²üÀ¼Ä¡õ ±ýÈ¡Öõ ÜÊÂŨà ¯¨Ã¨Âò ¦¾Ç¢Å¡ìÌž¢ø ¿¡õ ¸ÅÉõ ¦ºÖò¾Ä¡õ. Ӿġž¡¸î ¦º¡ýÉ ±ØòÐôÀ¢¨Æ¸¨Ç «ùÅô§À¡Ð ºÃ¢¦ºöÅÐ þýȢ¨Á¡¾¦¾É ¿¡ý ¸Õи¢§Èý. þ¾üÌõ þíÌì ¸ÄóЦ¸¡ûÙõ «È¢»÷¸Ç¢ý ¯¾Å¢¨Â ¿¡¼Ä¡õ; þó¾ô À¼Äò¾¢üÌ þýÉ¡÷ ¦À¡ÚôÒ ±ýÚ ÌÈ¢ì¸Ä¡õ. ±øÄ¡ô À¡¼ø¸¨ÇÔõ þð¼À¢ý þÚ¾¢Â¡¸ (? ¬ñθÙìÌô À¢ý) «Åü¨Èò ¾Ì¾¢Å¡öó¾ «È¢»÷¸Ç¢¼õ ¦¸¡ÎòÐô À¢¨Æ ¾¢Õò¾õ ¦ºöÐ §¸¡ôÀ¢ø ¨Åì¸Ä¡õ ±É¢Ûõ þô§À¡§¾ ¿õÁ¡ø ÓÊó¾ «Ç× ¦ºö¾¡ø ¿øÄÐ ±ýÀÐ ±ý ¸ÕòÐ.
«Éóò
þ¨¾ ±Ø¾¢ÂÀ¢ý ÀÍÀ¾¢Â¢ý þΨ¸¨Âô ÀÊò§¾ý. «½¢¸û ÀüÈ¢ò ¾É¢ þ¨Æ¢ø ¨ÅòÐ즸¡ûÅÐ ¿øÄÐ
- From: ananth (@ sherbrooke-hse-ppp3605890.sympatico.ca)
on: Tue Dec 2 23:09:06 EST 2003
À¡¼ø 28 ÀüÈ¢ ¯.§Å.º¡. ¯¨Ã¢ø ¸¡ñÀ¾¢ý ÍÕì¸õ:
(º£Ã¢Ð §¾Å÷ ¾í¸û º¢ó¾¨É ±ýÀÐ ¯ýÉ¢
§ÅâÂí ¸ÁÄò §¾¡Ûõ Å¢¨ÇÅ §¾¡÷ Å¢ÉÂó ¾ýÉ¡ø
¡âÛõ ¯Â÷ó¾ ãÄòÐ ´ÕÅáõ þÕÅ÷ ¾õ¨Á
ãâ¦Åï º¢¨Ä §Áø þðÎ ¦Á¡öÂÁ÷ ãðÊ Å¢ð¼¡ý).
À¡¼ÖìÌ ÓýۨḠþôÀÊî ¦º¡ø¸¢È¡÷ (¦º¡ü¸û ÀÄ ±ýÛ¨¼Â¨Å, «¨¼ôÒì ÌÈ¢¸ÙìÌû þÕôÀ¨Å ¯¨Ã¢ĢÕóÐ): º¢Åý, «Ã¢ þÅ÷¸Ç¢ø ¡÷ ¯Â÷ó¾Å÷ ±ýÚ §¸ðÌõ º¡ì¸¢ø §¾Å÷¸û «Åâø ¡÷ ¬üÈø Á¢ì¸Å÷ ±Éò ¦¾Ã¢óЦ¸¡ûÇ Å¢ÕõÒ¸¢È¡÷¸û ±ýÀ¨¾ò ¦¾Ã¢óЦ¸¡ñ¼ À¢ÃÁý, «¨¾§Â 'Ţ¡ƒÁ¡¸ì' ¦¸¡ñÎ «ùÅ¢ÕÅ⨼ §À¡÷ãÇî ¦ºö¾¡ý. "Å¡ýÁ£¸òÐûÙõ þùÅ¡§È þö¾¢ ÜÈôÀθ¢ýÈÐ"
(¬¸, Å¡øÁ£¸¢Ôõ À¢ÃÁý '§ÅñΦÁý§È' Å¢¨Ç¡ÊÉ¡ý ±ýÈ ¦À¡Õ¨Çô Ò¨¾ò¾¢Õ츢ȡ÷ ±ýÚ §¾¡ýÚ¸¢ÈÐ)
À¡¼Ä¢ý À¾×¨Ã¢ø "µ÷ Å¢ÉÂõ ¾ýÉ¡ø" ±ýÀ¾üÌ "«ùÅ¢¼òÐìÌô¦À¡Õó¾¢Â¦¾¡Õ Ýú¢ɡø" ±ýÚ ¸¡ñ¸¢ÈÐ! "¦Á¡ö «Á÷ ãðÊÅ¢ð¼¡ý= ÅĢ §À¡÷ ÒâÔÁ¡Ú àñÊÅ¢ð¼¡ý"
À¡¼Ä¢ý Å¢Çì¸ò¾¢ø, "Å¢ø¨Ä Ţ¡ƒÁ¡¸ì ¦¸¡ñÎ À¢ÃÁý ¾ó¾¢ÃÁ¡¸î º¢Å Å¢‰Ïì¸Ç¢¨¼§Â §À¡¨Ã ãðÊÅ¢ð¼¡ý ±ý¸. ¾¢ÕÁ¡Öõ º¢Å¦ÀÕÁ¡Ûõ... ¦¾¡Æ¢ø §ÅÚÀ¡Î ¸Õ¾¢ þÕ¦ÅÚ ÅÊÅí¦¸¡ñÎǧÃÂýÈ¢ 'ãÄô ¦À¡Õû' ±ýÈ Ó¨È¢ø «ùÅ¢ÕÅÕõ ´Õŧà ±ýÀ¾¨É ¬ý§È¡÷ Å¡ì̸ǡø ¯½ÃÄ¡Ìõ. ¦À¡ö¨¸Â¡÷, â¾ò¾¡÷ «ó¾¡¾¢¸Ç¢Öõ À¢ÈÅ¢¼í¸Ç¢Öõ þù×ñ¨Á¨Âì ¸¡ñ¸. 'ãÅÕõ ´ÕÅÉ¡õ ã÷ò¾¢ ±ýÈ¡÷ ¸õÀ¿¡¼Õõ"
- From: B.Balaji (@ ppp-219.65.96.220.chn.vsnl.net.in)
on: Wed Dec 3 09:13:38 EST 2003
¯ÄÌ ±Ä¡õ ÓÉ¢ÅüÌ ®ó§¾ý, ¯Ú À¨¸ ´Î츢ô §À¡ó§¾ý,
«ÄÌ þø Á¡ ¾Åí¸û ¦ºöÐ, µ÷ «Õ Ũà þÕó§¾ý; ¬ñ¨¼,
º¢¨Ä¨Â ¿£ þÚò¾ µ¨º ¦ºÅ¢ ¯È, º£È¢ Åó§¾ý;
Á¨Ä̦Åý Åø¨Ä¬¸¢ý Å¡í̾¢ ¾Û¨Å!' ±ýÈ¡ý. 34
â§Ä¡¸õ ÓØÐõ ¸¡îÂÀ ÓÉ¢ÅÛìÌò ¾¡Éõ ¦ºö§¾ý; À¨¸Å÷¸¨Ç ´Î츢§Éý;«Õ¨Áò¾Åõ ¦ºö¾ÀÊ Á§¸ó¾¢Ã Á¨Ä¢ø ¾í¸¢Â¢Õó§¾ý; ¿£ º¢Å Å¢ø¨Ä ´Êò¾ ´Ä¢¨Âì §¸ðÎ §¸¡Àõ ¦¸¡ñÎ þíÌ Åó§¾ý; ¿£ ÅÄ¢¨ÁÔ¨¼ÂÅÉ¡¾Ä¡ø §À¡÷ ¦ºö§Åý. Å¢ø¨Ä ŨÇò¾¢Î! ±ýÈ¡ý
Ũà - Á¨Ä : Á§¸ó¾¢Ã Á¨Ä
Á¨Ä̦Åý - §À¡÷ ¦ºö§Åý
¯Ú À¨¸ ´Î츢ô §À¡ó§¾ý - ¯ðÀ¨¸ ¬¨ÈÔõ «¼í¸î ¦ºöÐ Åó§¾ý ±ýÚõ ¯¨Ãì¸Ä¡õ.
Å¢ø¨Ä Å¡í¸¢ þáÁý ŨÇòÐ, 'þ¾üÌ þÄìÌ Â¡Ð?' ±É, ÀÃÍáÁ¨É §¿¡ì¸¢ô §À;ø
±ýÈÉý ±ýÉ, ¿¢ýÈ þáÁÛõ ÓÚÅø ±ö¾¢,
¿ýÚ ´Ç¢÷ Ó¸ò¾ý ¬¸¢, '¿¡Ã½ý ÅĢ¢ý ¬ñ¼
¦ÅýÈ¢ Å¢ø ¾Õ¸!' ±ýÉ, ¦¸¡Îò¾Éý; Å£Ãý ¦¸¡ñÎ, «ò
ÐýÚ þÕï º¨¼§Â¡ý «ïº, §¾¡ÙÈ Å¡í¸¢, ¦º¡øÖõ: 35
±É ÀÃÍáÁý ¦º¡øÄ×õ, þáÁÛõ Òýº¢Ã¢ôÒ¼ý, ´Ç¢¦À¡Õó¾¢Â Ó¸òмý ' ¾¢ÕÁ¡Ä¢ý ¦ÅüÈ¢ ¦À¡Õó¾¢Â Å¢ø¨Äò ¾Õ¸' ±ýÈ¡ý. ÀÃÍáÁý Å¢ø¨Äì ¦¸¡Îì¸ þáÁÛõ Åí¸¢, ÀÃÍáÁý «ïÍõÀÊ Å¨Çò¾¡ý. À¢ý ÀÃÍáÁ¨É §¿¡ì¸¢î ¦º¡øÄÄ¡É¡ý.
ÐýÚ þÕï º¨¼§Â¡ý - ¦¿Õí¸¢Â ¦Àâ º¨¼Â¢¨ÉÔ¨¼Â ÀÃÍáÁý.
'â¾ÄòÐ «Ã¨º ±øÄ¡õ ¦À¡ýÚÅ¢ò¾¨É; ±ýÈ¡Öõ,
§Å¾ Å¢òÐ ¬Â §Á§Ä¡ý ¨Áó¾ý ¿£, Ţþõ âñ¼¡ö,
¬¾Ä¢ý ¦¸¡øÄø ¬¸¡Ð; «õÒ þÐ À¢¨ÆôÀÐ «ýÈ¡ø;
¡Рþ¾üÌ þÄì¸õ ¬ÅÐ? þÂõÒ¾¢ Å¢¨ÃÅ¢ý!' ±ýÈ¡ý. 36
â§Ä¡¸òÐ «Ãº÷¸¨Ç «Æ¢ò¾ÅÉ¡É¡Öõ, ¿£ §Å¾í¸¨ÇÂÈ¢ó¾ ƒÁ¾ì¸¢É¢ Á¸¡ ÓÉ¢ÅÉ¢ý ¨Áó¾ý; ¾Åõ âñ¼Åý; ¬¨¸Â¡ø ¯ý¨Éì ¦¸¡øÄø ¬¸¡Ð; þùÅõÒìÌ þÄìÌ ±Ð? ; ¯¼§É ÜÚš¡¸!' ±ýÈ¡ý.
þÂõÒ¾¢ Å¢¨ÃÅ¢ý - ±ÉÐ «õÀ¡ÉРŢøĢɢýÚ ¦ÅÇ¢ôÀðÎ ¯ÉìÌ «À¡Âò¨¾ ¯ñ¼¡ìÌõ ÓýɧÁ Å¢¨ÃÅ¢ý þÂõÒ¾¢ ±ýÈ¡É¡õ.
¦À¡ýÚÅ¢ò¾ø - «Æ¢ò¾ø
- From: bb (@ c-24-6-216-148.client.comcast.net)
on: Wed Dec 3 11:20:38 EST 2003
I will post 37-40 now.
- From: bb (@ c-24-6-216-148.client.comcast.net)
on: Wed Dec 3 11:46:25 EST 2003
37. ÀÃÍáÁý þáÁ¨Éò о¢ò¾ø
¸Ä¢Å¢Õò¾õ
¿£¾¢Â¡ö Óɢ󾢧¼ø ¿£Â¢íÌ Â¡Å÷ìÌõ
¬¾¢Â¡ý «È¢ó¦¾ý «Äí¸ø §¿Á¢Â¡ö
§Å¾¢Â¡ þÚŧ¾ ÂýÈ¢ ¦ÅñÁ¾¢ô
À¡¾¢Â¡ý À¢Êò¾Å¢ø ÀüÈô §À¡Ð§Á¡.
þáÁÀ¢Ã¡ý Å¢ø¨Ä Å¡í¸¢ ŨÇò¾¨Á¨Âì ¸ñ¼ ÀÃÍáÁý, ‚Áó¿¡Ã¡Â½§É þíÌ þáÁÉ¡¸ì ¸¡ðº¢ ¾ÕÀÅý ±Éò §¾÷ó¾ÅÉ¡¸¢, "¿£¾¢ ÅƢ¢ø Å¢ÇíÌÀŧÉ! ±ý¨Éì §¸¡À¢ì¸¡§¾. ±ø§Ä¡ÕìÌõ Ó¾ü ¦À¡ÕÇ¡¸ Å¢ÇíÌÀÅý ¿£§Â ±É «È¢ó§¾ý. ÐǺ¢ Á¡¨ÄÔõ ºì¸ÃôÀ¨¼Ôõ ¦¸¡ñ¼ ¿¡Â¸§É! ¦ÅñÀ¢¨Èî ºó¾¢Ã¨Éî º¨¼ÓÊ¢ø ¾Ã¢ò¾ º¢Å¦ÀÕÁ¡ý ¨¸Â¢ø À¢Êò¾Å¢ø ¿¢ýÉ¡ø иû¸Ç¡¸ ÓÈ¢ì¸ôÀÎŧ¾ ÂýÈ¢ì ¨¸Â¢ø À¢Êò¾¾üÌõ ÅĢ§¾¡?" ±É ²ò¾¢É¡ý.
38. ¦À¡ýÛ¨¼ ŨǸÆø ¦À¡Äí¦¸¡û §¾¡Ç¢É¡ö
Á¢ýÛ¨¼ §¿Á¢Â¡ý ¬¾ø ¦Áöõ¨Á¡ø
±ýÛÇÐ ¯Ä¸¢ÛìÌ þÎì¸ñ ¡ý ¾ó¾
¯ýÛ¨¼ Å¢øÖõ¯ý ¯ÃòÐìÌ ®Î «ýÈ¡ø.
"¦À¡ýÉ¡ø ¦ºöÂôÀð¼ Å£Ãì ¸Æ¨Ä «½¢ó¾ ¾¢ÕôÀ¡¾í¸¨ÇÔ¨¼ÂŧÉ! Á¢ýÛ¸¢ýÈ §À¦Ã¡Ç¢Ô¨¼Â ºì¸Ã¡Ô¾õ ²ó¾¢Â ¸¼×û ¿£§Â ±ýÀÐ ¯ñ¨Á. ¬¾Ä¡ø «Ãì¸÷ ӾĢ§Â¡Ã¡ø þù×ĸò¾¢üÌò ÐýÀõ ¯ñ¼¡ÅÐ ±ýÀÐ þÉ¢ ¡ÐÇÐ? ¿¡ý ¯ÉìÌì ¦¸¡Îò¾ ¯ýÛ¨¼Â Å¢øÖõ ¯ý ÅÄ¢¨ÁìÌ þ¨½Â¡ÉÐ ±ýÚ ¯¨Ãò¾üÌ «Ã¢Ð" ±ýÚ, ÀÃÍáÁý §ÁÖõ ¦¾¡¼÷óÐ ÜȢɡý.
39. ÀÃÍáÁÛ¨¼Â ¾Å ÅÄ¢¨Á¨Â þáÁý ¦ÀÚ¾ø
±ö¾ «õÒ þ¨¼ÀØÐ ±ö¾¢ ¼¡Áø ±ý
¦ºö¾Åõ ¡¨ÅÔõ º¢¨¾ì¸ §Å¦ÂÉì
¨¸«Åñ ¦¿¸¢ú¾Öõ ¸¨½Ôõ ¦ºýÈÅý
¨ÁÂÚ ¾Åõ±Ä¡õ šâ Á£ñ¼§¾.
þáÁý ±ö¾ «õÒ þ¨¼Â¢ø ÀØÐ þýÈ¢ô ÀÃÍáÁý §ÅñÊÂÅ¡Ú «Åý ¦ºö¾ ¾ÅôÀ¨Éì ¨¸ì¦¸¡ñÎ Á£ñÎõ þáÁýÀ¡ø «¨¼ó¾Ð.
¨ÁÂÚ ¾Åõ - ÌüÈÁ¢øÄ¡¾ ¾Åõ.
40. ÀÃÍáÁý Å¢¨¼¦ÀüÚî ¦ºøÖ¾ø
±ñ½¢Â ¦À¡Õ¦ÇÄ¡õ þɢРÓüÚ¸
Áñ½¢Â Á½¢¿¢È Åñ½ Åñ ÐÆ¡öì
¸ñ½¢Â ¡Å÷ìÌõ ¸¨Ç¸ñ ¬¸¢Â
Òñ½¢Â Å¢¨¼¦ÂÉò ¦¾¡ØÐ §À¡Â¢É¡ý.
«ô§À¡Ð ÀÃÍáÁý, þáÁ¨É §¿¡ì¸¢, "¿£ÄÁ½¢ §À¡ýÚ ´Ç¢Õõ Åñ½ò¾¢Õ§ÁÉ¢ ¦¸¡ñÎ «Æ¸¢Â ÐÇÀ Á¡¨Ä ¾Ã¢òРŢÇíÌÀÅÉ¡ö, ¿¢ý¨Éô ҸĢ¼Á¡¸ «¨¼ó¾Å÷¸ÙìÌò ÐýÀí¸¨Ç ¿£ìÌõ Òñ½¢Â§É! ¿£ ±ñ½¢Â ¡×õ þɢР¿¢¨È×Ú¸!" ±Éò ¦¾¡ØРި¼ ¦ÀüÚî ¦ºýÈ¡ý.
Áñ½¢Â Á½¢ - «Äí¸¡Ãõ ¦ºöÂôÀð¼ àö¨ÁÂ¡É ¿£ÄÁ½¢. þáÁÛ¨¼Â Åñ½ò¨¾ì ÌÈ¢ò¾Ð.
- From: B.Balaji (@ ppp-219.65.97.188.chn.vsnl.net.in)
on: Wed Dec 3 12:18:17 EST 2003
welcome back bb.
This week we will be reaching a mile stone ie completing Bala kaanDam.
- From: ananth (@ sherbrooke-hse-ppp3605855.sympatico.ca)
on: Wed Dec 3 18:03:06 EST 2003
37-¬õ À¡¼Ä¢ø: (¬¾¢Â¡ý) «È¢ó¾¦Éý ±ýÈ¢Õ츧ÅÏõ (À¡¼§À¾õ: «È¢ó¾Éý, «È¢ó¾¢Äý)
- From: bb (@ c-24-6-216-148.client.comcast.net)
on: Thu Dec 4 02:21:31 EST 2003
†Ã¢, À¡Ä¡ƒ¢, ¯í¸û ¸ÕòÐì¸ÙìÌ ¿ýÈ¢.
À¡Ä¡ƒ¢, «½¢¸¨Çô ÀüȢ Ţš¾í¸¨Ç þý¦É¡Õ ¾¢Ã¢Â¢ø ¨ÅòÐ즸¡ûÇÄ¡õ. þýÛ¦Á¡Õ ¸¡ñ¼õ ÓÊó¾¡ø ¬ÃõÀ¢ì¸Ä¡õ, ¿¢¨È À¡¼ø¸û þÕìÌõ ¿ÁìÌ §Áü§¸¡û ¸¡ð¼.
"¸õÀý, º¢Å¨ÉÔõ Å¢‰Ï¨ÅÔõ ºÁÁ¡¸§Å À¡Å¢ò¾¡ý ±ýÀÐ ±ý ¸ÕòÐ. ¸¨¾ô §À¡ì¸¢ø ¯ûÇ ºõÀÅí¸¨Çî ¦º¡øÖõ§À¡Ð, ¨ºÅ-¨Å½Å §À¾í¸¨Ç ÅÇ÷ìÌõÀÊÂ¡É ¸ð¼í¸Ç¢ø ¦¸¡ïºõ underplay Àñ½¢Â¢ÕôÀ¨¾ ¦¿Î¸¢Öõ ¸¡½Ä¡õ. "
¬†¡, †Ã¢, þó¾ Á¡¾¢Ã¢Â¡É non-intuitive (ºð¦¼ýÚ §¾¡½¡¾) À¡÷¨Å¸¨Ç ¿£í¸û þýÛõ ±ÎòÐ ¨Åì¸ §ÅñÎõ. «ó¾ ¸¡ÄòÐ ºã¸, Á¾ Ýú¿¢¨Ä¸Ç¢ø ¸õÀý ±ôÀÊôÀð¼ ¿¢¨Ä¨Â ±Îò¾¡ý ±ýÚ þýÛõ Ţâš¸î ¦º¡ýÉ¡ø ¿ýÈ¡¸ þÕìÌõ. ¸õÀý þÕó¾ ¸¡Äò¾¢ø ¨ºÅ, ¨Å½Å §À¾í¸û ±ôÀÊ þÕó¾É? ¬úÅ¡÷ì¸Ê¡Ûõ º¢Å¡îº¡Ã¢Â¡Õõ ºñ¨¼ §À¡ð¼Ð §À¡ø §À¡ð¼¡÷¸Ç¡? ¸õÀý ²ý underplay Àñ½§ÅñÎõ? þ¾¢ø þýÛõ ¿¢¨È Ţ„Âõ þÕ츢ÈÐ ±ýÚ ¿¢¨É츢§Èý. À¡Ä¡ƒ¢ ¦º¡øÄ¢ÂÐ §À¡ø, §À¡¨Ã Å¡øÁ£¸¢ ±Ø¾¢Â¢Õ󾨾 ´ðÊ ±Ø¾¡Áø Á¡ÚÀðÎ ±Ø¾ì ¸¡Ã½õ ±ýÉ?
¯¨Ã¡º¢Ã¢Â÷¸¨Çô ÀüÈ¢ ¿£í¸û ¦º¡øÅÐõ ÍšÊÂÁ¡¸ò ¾¡ý þÕ츢ÈÐ. «Å÷¸û ¦º¡øŨ¾ «ôÀʧ ±ÎòÐ즸¡ûÅРܼ¡Ð §À¡Ä¢Õ츢ÈÐ.
List all pages of this thread