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Origin of Tamil
Origin of Tamil
Topic started by Ananth (@ 203.94.237.130) on Sun Apr 4 09:25:44 EDT 2004.
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Is Tamil language originated first or Sanskrit?
and What is the proof? Please reply me soon, it will be very kind of you..
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- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ cache-gtc-ab16.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sat May 15 00:44:23 EDT 2004
NO Mary because Thamizh Cinema has 50% English..I'm sure the English people will be able to understand it! If you want to create a Cinema and make money as Bolly wood and Thamizh Cinema doing..you either put subtitles or speak 50% English in your cinema! I wish I could meet these great directors and these fools who act and create the Thamizh cinema and make it in a corrupted way! All these directors and producers and Actors and Actresses claim is that youths want this and youth want that so we are doing it!
Let me ask you this.
If you smoke Cigaratte does that make you stronger? (no as WHO points out that smoking people will have 8-10% more chance of getting lung cancer compare to normal person with 1% chance and you should know other disseases caused by smoking)...and if Smoking make you stronger..why that I don't see none of the true Thamizh Brave soldiers smoking?! The same thing apply to Drinking!
Next is speaking English! If it's Thamizh Cinema then it should be pure Thamizh! Is an English Cinema going to have Thamizh in it? No! Why? (although Thamizh is one of the 7 seven Oldest language in the World ..as accepted)...well the reason is that they don't respect our langauge and how can we blame them when we don't! Speaking Thamizh seem so cheap to these morons who live off by looting Thamizh in the name of Thamizh Cinema! The Government of TN doesn't care about it and not many Thamizhans talk of this issue..and so this stays in an advantage to non-Thamizh people as the Thamizh Cinema which could atleast help..although TN can't support the Thamizhans world-wide with Thamizh Education to keep the Thamizh generations speak Thamizh..unlike a Chinese can do..or a Jew or even an English men..Portuguese..even Urudhu and Hindi...but Thamizhans are left with no Identity..atleast these foolish Thamizhans in Thamizh Cinema could do something about it! What's so up with LOVE MOVIES? Is Love or girl loving a boy or a boy loving a girl or the subject Love is new to Thamizhan? Is there such need to free Thamizhans to 'loving' and to make Thamizhans understand what Love is?!! Even if so it's not the most IMPORTANT TOPIC TO TALK ABOUT! What about our rights and freedom? What about poverty and thirsty? What about History the past and the present and atleast a prediction of the Thamizhans future?! You can film
Sivaka SinthAmaNi..as a Film
You could talk about TN three kingdoms and their struggle to save Thamizhans..perhaps by doing it make the Cherars who have became as 'Malayalese' understand their roots! Or the Kolar Thanga Vayal history! Perhaps kauvery water crisis! Maybe how Chozha Empire spreaded! Perhaps a history about important sites in TN or in Thamizheezham! Perhaps about Thamizheezha history and the Thamizhans struggle there! There are lot and lot of things to be written..even about AIDS awareness! Education related movies! Thamizhan Poverty and the daily days of Thamizhans! Perhaps about local heroes and national heroes like PerunchithAthanar, periyar, perhaps even about Arijar. Anna. Maybe about Kumarikandam or the enslavement of Thamizhans world-wide, Thamizh Kings of the Past....and so on.
But these subjects don't rise ..the movie I seen Kauvery crisis was in the movie 'Thenral' which depicted some truths..why can't we have more movies like that to make Thamizhans realize a thing or two! Should the Thamizh Cinema also should make Thamizhans slave?
If a Director want to make money by putting English Sub title..I hope he goes to Holly Wood or Bolly Wood and does that there for the sake of himself and for the good of Thamizh Community! I also advice that these people stop using English texts in Thamizh Cinema (Show me an English Cinema with Thamizh Editing texts!) Also teach the foreign actress and actors about Thamizh and so on and have them a Thamizh Name..and what the heck is super star? What the heck is a name 'Vijay?' 'Rajini?' what the heck is 'Thirisa?' 'Ramba?' 'Simran?' are these names Thamizh? We don't have Thamizh womens in TN? Wow..where does these Thamizh Directors and producers come from? non-Thamizh background? All of them? They don't think their skin is good? They don't think their community womens shouldn't be in the Cinema? Then why the heck these fools are in THAMIZH Cinema? FOOLS!
- From: S.Anandan (@ 196.12.57.99)
on: Wed Jun 2 02:41:00 EDT 2004
I strongly agree with Mr.Nedunchezhian..
I too have similiar views about our own Tamil film industry..The guys who have the Thamizh unarvu does not to be seen in this good industry.
it is a shame on our Tamil film industry..
The worst thing was,they always blame on our Audience for that..
- From: acidflow_acid (@ 203.101.67.2)
on: Thu Jun 3 06:40:40 EDT 2004
i am in vey big confusion that..
which is older tamil or hindi..]
please send me a mail clearly that...which came first....
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ 142.76.1.62)
on: Thu Jun 3 16:01:48 EDT 2004
you didn't leave your e-mail mister.
- From: P.Balaji (@ )
on: Tue Jul 6 09:46:39
Kindly let me know the Origin of Thamizh Language and Thamizh letters. Is there a common dravidian language in before the Thiruvalluvar days?
- From: Mara (@ 61.11.81.74)
on: Tue Jul 6 23:47:53 EDT 2004
I think that Tamizh came first even before Hindi or Sanskrit.The simple reason is the lesser number of alphabets in Tamil.In Tamil we have only one KA.But in sanskrit , Hindi there are 4 alphabets in ka series like KA,KHA,GA,GHA.Same is the case in all the letters.Since Tamizh came first with lesser number of letters , these sanskrit people added extra alphabets and derived sanskrit out of tamizh.
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ cache-dtc-ae09.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Jul 15 01:03:57 EDT 2004
I agree with Mara, it might be true. It can be true, It is true!
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ cache-dtc-ae09.proxy.aol.com)
on: Thu Jul 15 01:06:10 EDT 2004
Thamizh existed before and during and after Thiruvalluvar and it exists even now and it will in the future.
- From: Murali (@ nat01-nbdial-ext.rutgers.edu)
on: Sun Sep 12 11:11:52
Mr. Nedunchezhiyan. You're clearly knowledgeable about Tamizh History but mostly come off sounding like a Tamil fundamentalist.
- From: Nedunchezhiyan (@ cache-dtc-ae09.proxy.aol.com)
on: Sun Sep 12 16:39:43 EDT 2004
How do you mean I'm a fundamentalist? I approach opposite views with anger? Something like that? You think I belong to a Thamizh militant group or something? I believe I tried to post the view that I have. Infact Thiru AP MASILMANI in this forum have said again and again about the antiquity of Thamizh and how the origin of Thamizh exceed that of Sanskirit or any other World languages. There are enough proof to say Thamizh is 'better' than Sanskirit or any other languages. Although you could jump up with emotional feelings and say 'all languages' are same. Yes but what is a language? When you look deeply into it then you finally clarify things and arrange it in order and then you look at the structure of the language which contains the origin of the words in the language, literature, literacy laws, history etc. I believe we Thamizhans don't have a good organization that protects our language. In fact the foreigners and our enemies don't want such thing to happen. As matter of fact that's why they play games with Thamizhar Issues.
nanri, vannakkam ___/\___
- From: tamizhanban (@ 61.2.229.31)
on: Fri Sep 17 06:20:16 EDT 2004
i feel like laughing at your stupidity mara. your findings through deep research that the language that has lesser alphabets should have been the oldest makes you seem like a bafoon. if your theory is proved to be right, then it English that should the oldest of all languages. Tamil is undoubtedly one of the oldest languages of the world and the richest also. but what is the oldest literature in tamil? Tolkappiyam. it is estimated to be only 3000 years old. but certain literature upanishads etc. date back to 5000 years and more. and remember it is not the age that determines the richness of a language. it is the literary contribution and other contributions that make a language great. in that point of view both tamil and sanscrit are in the same level
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