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- From: JayBee (@ 203.106.176.82)
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- From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.128.13) on: Thu Feb 15 05:56:07
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- From: Mani M. Manivannan (@ cpe-24-221-181-57.ca.sprintbbd.net) on: Fri Feb 16 00:17:41
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- From: P.N.Kumar (@ 202.152.23.162) on: Fri Feb 16 04:32:27
Just cutting & pasting a relevant portion from one of those tamil.net mails:
I have lived outside TamilNadu and presently outside India; I have also been to various countries. And I find only the Tamils split into two major groups.
This is of course perpetuated by the Tamil - supposed to - speaking Brahmin community in general. They alone have developed an exclusive dialect and I don't find this in any other linguistic groups of India. vattAra vazakku is there everywhere. Not an exclusive dialect for a caste. Nor that exclusive (now extinct) sartorial pattern.
What I wonder is the fact that even the enlightened Brahmins are not realizing that such exclusivity is only alienating them from the main stream. I see Chess grand masters, Musicians, Businessmen even Writers and Politicians from this community, switching over to 'nannA irukkELa' Tamil.
I shall share two interesting instances: Back in Madras when I was negotiating with the Union leaders on some dispute in the factory, my colleague and very senior person suddenly threw a question - Chittha minna enna sonnEl Rangarao? - And I had to literally translate that into North Madras Tamil to the bewildered labour leader.
Another instance took place when I had taken some of my Indonesian Tamil friends here at Jakarta to a Tamil drama - If I remember correct, it was a crazy group's drama. They were sitting dumb founded (note that they can speak better Tamil than many from the main land) while the entire theater was bursting into laughter since the first scene. I took them out during the interval profusely apologizing.
I don't intend to hurt any individual or the community here. In fact, I also see some Tamils from this community, consciously avoiding their dialect, merging with the main stream easily.
- From: V.C.Vijayaraghavan (@ 212.240.12.82) on: Fri Feb 16 06:35:45
P.N.Kumar wrote "I don't intend to hurt any individual or the community here. In fact, I also see some Tamils from this community, consciously avoiding their dialect, merging with the main stream easily. "
What is your problem if somebody has a dialect governed by their caste or locality or economic status. The "mainstream" in Tamil speaking is a myth, a compl;ete myth. There are only district dialects, no mainstream.
This is plain brahmin obsession and an insult
- From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.128.13) on: Wed Feb 14 02:56:56
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