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- From: A P MASILAMANI (@ cache202.156ce.maxonline.com.sg)
on: Thu Sep 2 12:19:07 EDT 2004
contd..Miku does not exist in Skrt. Neither is there a corresponding Mikruthi. In Basque, which is closely connected to the Tamil miku, a homonym meg is found. Thus it is conclusive that the rootword does not exist in Skrt and it is Dravidian in origin. Only the near-homonym Vikruthi does, with meanings such as condition (of body or mind), sickness disease perturbation , agitation , emotion alienation , hostility , defection etc., which can harly follow from Tamil miku >mikuthal. It is a completely different word from T: Vikuthi, for the variety of meanings it presents or (alternatively) Skrt has just appropriated the word from Tamil and invented for itself all these shades of meanings very conveniently.
There is no miku in Indo-European.
Any claim that vikuthi is Skrt should be dismissed without a second look at it!
- From: A P MASILAMANI (@ cache202.156ce.maxonline.com.sg)
on: Fri Sep 3 01:56:12 EDT 2004
THE WORD SAMASKRITHAM: OR SANSKRIT
The word Samskrita > Sanskrit (Anglicized ) has been interpreted by philologists as "refined and made" or refined language. The name itself implies that the language was refined or invented from pre-existing linguistic sources and materials (Prakrits or pre-existing naturally spoken North Dravidian languages; South Dravidian [ Ta, Te, Kan, Ma and Tu etc ] ; Indo=European ) and it is plain absurdity to deny it, unless there is some other explanation to the word Sanskrit ; and, there is none from the sympathizers of Sanskrit.
The word SAMA comes from Tamil samai = to cook (samaiththal). From “cook” (samai), the derived or extended meaning is cooked well; cooked and made palatable or as others have chosen to say, “refined” and this word gives the whole episode some dignity.
In many Northern and Southern languages, Tamil words ending in -i will drop their ending when they cross over. A simple illustration is T: kathai (story), which in Malayalam becomes “katha”. Sanskrit adopted similar rule of adoption or conversation of Dravidian words. Thus in Skrt too, it is Katha. from T: Kathai.
The root of “katha” is {kathu ) < ( kath )
Examine these words: vizuthu (vizu-thu), pazuthu (pazu-thu.), ezuthu (ezu-thu), poruthh (poru-thu), kazhththu (kazu-thu). and there are many. There are hundreds or thousands of them. Oru paanai sooRRukku oru sooRu patham. (One grain of rice from the cook pot will be sufficient to show whether the entire port of rice is cooked or not ). Disregard the stress of consonants for this examination. E.g., kazu – th – thu : disregard the centre th as it arises as a result of the joinder. Thus you know that in the word kath-thu, the root word is kath or you can smoothen the disruption in sound by saying (kathu ).which, you can now realize, the Tamils of antiquity even before Tokaapiyanaar had done. In certain other languages, they left it without smoothening it, as in English : cut! If it were Tamil, they would have said: kattu not just cut or kat!!
- From: A P MASILAMANI (@ cache202.156ce.maxonline.com.sg)
on: Fri Sep 3 02:03:14 EDT 2004
CONTD..
kath > kathu.
kathu > kaththu - (shout).¸Ð > ¸òÐ
kathu > kathai (kath[u] + i ] (story) ¸Ð > ¸Ð + ³ > ¸¨¾
kathi (-ththal) - ( telling or saying ).¸¨¾ò¾ø
kathi ( kathi illai = solla mudiyaatha nilaimai , distress ) a way to say it or generally a way. ¸¾¢
kath > kaathai = divisions within a story. (e.g., pavaththiRam aRukena paavaai nooRRa kaathai). ¸¡¨¾
kathu > kaathu ( a receptacle in the head to receive sound ). ¸Ð > ¸¡Ð
kathai > kathaiththal ¸¨¾ò¾ø
- From: A P MASILAMANI (@ cache202.156ce.maxonline.com.sg)
on: Fri Sep 3 02:13:08 EDT 2004
contd..
kathu > kathaRu > kathaRuthal.
kathu > kazaRuthal. (kathu> kazu > kazaRu ).¸Ð > ¸Ø > ¸ÆÚ
kazu > kazuthu (kaththum vaNdu )¸Ð> ¸Ø > ¸ØÐ
kathu > kaRu > kaRakaRa (noise )¸Ð> ¸Ú> ¸È¸È
kaRanku > kaRankuthal (noise, raising some sound ).¸ÈíÌ
¸òÐõ ÅñÎ, ¸òÐõ Ì¢ø ±ý¦ÈøÄ¡õ À¡¼ø¸Ç¢ø ¸¡ñ¸.
¸òоø: ¦À¡ÐÅ¡¸ ´Ä¢ò¾ø, º¢ÈôÀ¡¸ ¦ÅÌ ¯Ãì¸ô §À;ø
- From: A P MASILAMANI (@ cache202.156ce.maxonline.com.sg)
on: Fri Sep 3 02:16:42 EDT 2004
CONTD..
Now:
para (paranthu kidappathu ) > paar (parantha ulagam). > : paa. We shall come back to this word if necessary later.
kathu > katham, (sound, language, saying). [kathu+am]
parakatham > paakatham = Prakrit. ÀÃóÐ ÅÆíÌõ þÂü¨¸ ¦Á¡Æ¢ the natural language SPOKEN at large!
sama(i) + katham (= samakatham) . º¨Áì¸ôÀð¼ ¦Á¡Æ¢
Katham then became kritham
just like methu (soft) became mruthu in Skrt.
maka +m = makam became mrukam (animal) I have explained this in an earlier posting.
According to this rule of etymology or their usual way of mutilating neighbours’ words, katham became kritham.
sama-i (sama) + katham ( kritha ) = sama kritha > samaSkrita = samaskritham.
- From: A P MASILAMANI (@ cache202.156ce.maxonline.com.sg)
on: Fri Sep 3 02:19:55 EDT 2004
contd..
meaning refined language. When Samaskritam was refined from pre-existing languages, the Northern pundits wanted to hide the meaning of the name of their new language. They took Dravidian words and made a name for the language in 100 – 200 CE or AD. You cannot give it a name which will be too obvious to the common man leading him to think that the while episode in artificial and invented and thus ending in rejection. So, there is a political and sound reason to hide how the name was formed.
º¨Á > ºÁ,
¸Ð > ¸¾õ (§ÀîÍ, ¦Á¡Æ¢ ) > ¸¢Õ¾õ.
ºÁ + ¸¢Õ¾õ = ºÁŠ¸¢Õ¾õ (Š ºó¾¢Â¢ø À¢Èó¾ ±ØòÐ. )
¸¾õ ±ýÀÐ ¸¨¾, ¸òÐ, ¸¾Ú ӾĢ ¦º¡ü¸Ç¢ý «Ê¡øĢɢýÚ À¢Èó¾ ¦º¡øÄ¡Ìõ. «Ð ¸¢Õ¾õ ±ýÚ ¾¢Ã¢ì¸ôÀðÎ Áì¸û ¸ñ¸ÙìÌ Á¨È×ñ¼Ð.
The name Sanskrit has its latent root in Dravidian.
- From: A P MASILAMANI (@ cache202.156ce.maxonline.com.sg)
on: Fri Sep 3 02:24:39 EDT 2004
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