Topic started by Swaminathan (@ cache1.bnl.gov) on Wed Apr 3 08:41:18 .
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This is an effort to learn kamba ramayanam in an interactive manner, posting and discussing verses each day. Kamba Ramayanam is an epic in Tamil by Kambar, with more than 10,500 verses. The intricacies, poetic nuances, similes, metaphors, characterizations, descriptions and reading a vast epic in poem format makes this a unique work. The initiative is run through volunteers only. If you want to type up verses and take part in discussions, please go ahead, in this thread. Please contact Balaji Srinivasan (bb) for further details. The master page for this project is here: http://www.dhool.com/balaji/kambar/ |
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on: Fri Mar 26 10:59:51 EST 2004
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on: Fri Mar 26 11:32:25 EST 2004
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on: Fri Mar 26 19:40:35 EST 2004
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For ten years , Rama, Lakshmana and Seeta lived quietly among the rishis. In the Great Dhandaka forest there were a number of aashramaas where the rishis lived practising their austerities and living their lives of abnegation. the princes spent month in one aashrama, three months in second and a year in a third as welcome and happy visitors.
The forest was indescribably beautiful, with dear , bison , boars and elephants. the birds , the trees, the creepers, the blue waterlines - all live again in the beauty of Vaalmeeki's poetry.
Rama was very happy these ten years, these joy of association with great and holi men being added his joy in the quiet companionship of Lakshmana and Seeta. These ten years are disposed of in a small chapter. Time happily spent seems short and needs no length in recording.
When after ten yeras had thus passed, the end of their forest life was approaching, Raama wished to have darshan of the sage agastya who lived in the south.
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on: Fri Mar 26 23:30:59 EST 2004
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"Reflecting again and again, when all (the ascetics) had left, Sri Rama (a scion of Raghu) for his part did not like to continue his stay there any more for many reasons." (Valmiki Ramayana, Ayodhya Kanda, Canto CXVII, Sloka 1)
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on: Fri Mar 26 23:49:22 EST 2004
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