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- From: Ram (@ smith.mme.wsu.edu)
on: Sun Feb 9 06:48:42
ayyaa Ravi,
avan nammai "azhiththaa" aprum, eppadi "kaappaan" ;-)
- From: Pasupathy (@ hse-hamilton-ppp191417.sympatico.ca)
on: Sun Feb 9 10:30:06
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- From: perumal (@ j117.bkr38.jaring.my)
on: Sun Feb 9 11:26:51
aiya vanakam,
nalla muyatci. pls continue yr excellent work.
all the best.
anbudan
peru
- From: bb (@ 12-234-176-52.client.attbi.com)
on: Sun Feb 9 23:16:47
Harikrishnan, excellent analysis! This is exactly the kind of motivation that we need. I am just posting from a book on Kamba Ramayanam. MS, you should also just post from the book and keep your comments to a separate post.
Hari, don't worry about the collection. I maintain a master copy that will contain all the verses, so that we can collect it at the end. This thread will be used for posting verses each day and any discussion on them.
About more people joining to digitize, I think that will be most welcome. Just post here what you think you can do (either a bunch of verses to be sent to me, or post each day).
- From: †Ã¢ ¸¢Õ‰½ý (@ 61.11.76.171)
on: Mon Feb 10 01:31:40
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- From: MS (@ ch-1317)
on: Mon Feb 10 07:18:48
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- From: MS (@ ch-1317)
on: Mon Feb 10 07:27:36
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- From: MS (@ ch-1317)
on: Mon Feb 10 07:33:44
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on: Mon Feb 10 13:54:21
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- From: MS (@ ch-1317)
on: Tue Feb 11 06:18:23
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- From: bb (@ ouroboros.siebel.com) on: Tue Feb 11 13:28:10
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- From: akil (@ ac91a854.ipt.aol.com) on: Tue Feb 11 17:50:53
i don't know whether i'm repeating what others have already mentioned, b'cos i'm not able to read anything other than those posted in english.
the whole poem(cheyyul) is as follows:
anjilae ondru petraan anjilae ondrai thaavi
anjilae ondru aaraaga aariyarkkaaga aegi
anjilae ondru petra aNangai kaNdu ayalaar ooril
anjilae ondrai vaithaan avan nammai aLithu kkaappaan
aaru = vazhi, route. aakaasam is the element represented by that line.
its not azhithu.. but alithu kaapaan.
kamban and ramayanam are beyond racial identities like aryaas and dravidaas. though there is a general belief that forward castes are descendants of aaryans and the rest are descendants of dravidians, that might not hold true at this century. definitely there should have been a lot of racial interactions so far, that none can be traced back to dravidian or aryaan. also there is a belief that dravidians are south indians who moved to the south when the aryaans immigrated to the north.
what counts is the present. we all are indians and should be more proud to be tamil speaking - the language whose history dates back to those languages which are nomore existent and whose literature value is so high.
- From: MS (@ ch-1317) on: Wed Feb 12 08:49:32
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- From: bb (@ ouroboros.siebel.com) on: Wed Feb 12 16:57:43
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- From: Sreedharan (@ 203.199.207.3) on: Thu Feb 13 03:09:59
This has reference to Sri Swaminathan who had asked the meaning of "Aaraga" from a stanza written in praise of Sri Hanuman in Kambaramayanam. As he has already observed, this is one of five elements, i.e. water, which he had to cross by leaping into "aakasam" in search of Seeta.
Anjile onru, adhavadhu water aaraga, adhavadhu Kadlaga mariyadhu enru artham. Anjile Onrai thaavi enral, aakasathil paranthu senru, kadalai kadanthu enru artham kolla vendum. Aruyirkaka egi enral, in search of Seetha, who was in despair at Sri Lanka. Hope, I have elucidated enough.
- From: MS (@ ch-1317) on: Thu Feb 13 10:48:09
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- From: bb (@ ouroboros.siebel.com) on: Tue Feb 11 13:28:10
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