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veLLith thirai ilakkiyangaL
veLLith thirai ilakkiyangaL
Topic started by haran (@ 213.42.2.17) on Tue Dec 9 01:30:08 EST 2003.
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Dear friends,
A good poetry is like an iceberg; showing s small portion outside and hiding a lot underneath. So we have to dive and find the original dimension.
Also we can say that A poetry should be like 'manaR kENi'. It should keep on producing the meaning according to the man's depth of knowledge and his try.
(thottanaiththu uurum manar kEni maandharku
katranaiththu uurum aRivu- vaLLuvanin indha ilakkaNam aRivukku mattumalla kavidhaikkum thaanE.)
Writing a film song (with meaning) is the hardest thing in the poetic field(IMHO). The situation of the song is decided by the Director. The basic concept is decided by the Screen Play. Even the length of the line and the notes of words are decided by the the Music Director. Upart from all these hurdles, the Image of the Hero gives the writer some considerable restrictions. With all these Iron curtains around him, the film song writer has to breath the language and produce some poems.
migavum rasiththa thirappaadalgaLai ingu ezudhi, viLakki, namadhu magizchiyaip pagirndhu koLLalaamE. (orE paadalai, palarum pala kONangaLil paarkkum vaayppum idhil uLLadhu)
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- From: Uyarthiru (@ cvg-65-27-251-73.cinci.rr.com)
on: Mon Jan 5 18:25:29 EST 2004
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Malaith thOtaap pookkaLidam kooda illaatha naRumaNam ennidaththil irukkiRathu enRu kalaith thOttaththil pooththa poovaagiya thalaivi oyyaaramaaga kai veesi vanthaaL.
- From: akil (@ aca871c1.ipt.aol.com)
on: Mon Jan 5 18:28:34 EST 2004
thats good, TN
- From: Pavalamani Pragasam (@ 220.226.37.124)
on: Mon Jan 5 19:38:23 EST 2004
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- From: haran (@ 213.42.2.16)
on: Tue Jan 6 06:27:19 EST 2004
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- From: Pavalamani Pragasam (@ 220.226.37.136)
on: Wed Jan 7 01:40:33 EST 2004
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- From: Roshan (@ 220.247.217.106)
on: Wed Jan 7 02:16:34 EST 2004
PP,Akil, TN (uyarthiru) and Haran,
I enjoyedd all the interpretations, especially Akil's. Great work Akil!!! PP ÜÈ¢ÂЧÀ¡ø, ¾¨Ã§Â¡Î Å¡Éõ Å¢¨Ç¡Îõ §¸¡Äõ..±ýÀ¾ü¸¡É «÷ò¾õ ±ôÀÊ ±ÉìÌõ Òâ¡ÁÄ §À¡ÉÐ ±ýÚ ¦¾Ã¢ÂÅ¢ø¨Ä :-(.
Thanks to PP madam for bringing this song into our discussion.
Nice to see UKW here:-)
- From: Roshan (@ 220.247.217.106)
on: Wed Jan 7 02:23:44 EST 2004
I want to know the lyrics of a particular song sung by TMS. I happened to listen to this song, for the first time, in the latest "Male Semi-Final" of "Saptha SwarangaL" programme. The person who sang this particualr song was the winner. It has beautiful lyrics, describing a woman by comapring her with different states of Tamil Nadu. Unfortunatley I'm unable to recollect the name of the film and the first line of the song.
Hope someone can help me out.
- From: Roshan (@ 220.247.217.106)
on: Wed Jan 7 02:29:41 EST 2004
sorry it's not different states of Thamizh Nadu, it's different parts of Thamizh Nadu.
- From: Shakthi priya (@ 203-195-199-244.now-india.net.in)
on: Wed Jan 7 03:31:08 EST 2004
'ÁШâø ÀÈìÌõ Á£ý ¦¸¡Ê¨Â ¯ý ¸ñ¸Ç¢ø ¸ñ§¼§É?'
IS THAT THE SONG?
or one more is there kannagi movie (vijayakumari, ssr)
I forgot the song!
all posts on songs are great
- From: Sheik (@ slip-32-102-44-115.az.us.prserv.net)
on: Wed Jan 7 03:42:16 EST 2004
Yes,
Its "Madhuraiyil parantha meen kodiyai un Kangalil kandene... thanjaiyil parantha pulik kodiyai un penmaiyil kandene... Cheran villai un puruvaththil kandene ivai moonrum serntha unnai thamizhagam enbene...
this song is from the movie... oh god... i just forgot that movie....
its Jay shankar and jemini ganeshan
- From: haran (@ ac9.emirates.net.ae)
on: Wed Jan 7 03:51:47 EST 2004
Roshan,
I think you are talking about the song 'thanjaavuur maNNai eduththu' from 'poRkaalam'.
- From: haran (@ 213.42.2.16)
on: Wed Jan 7 04:30:38 EST 2004
Roshan,
andhap paadal TMS paadiyadhu enRaal, 'madhuraiyil paRantha miin kodiyai un kaNgaLil kaNdEnE' aagaththaan irukkum. padam 'puuvaa thalaiyaa'.
- From: Shakthi priya (@ 203-195-199-244.now-india.net.in)
on: Wed Jan 7 04:40:21 EST 2004
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Òýɨ¸ Òâó¾¡û" ///
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«¾É¡ø «¨¾ Å¢¨Ä¡ö §¸ð§¼ý. (þø¨Ä¦ÂÉ¢ø ¸¢¨¼ì¸¡Ð ±ýÀ¾¡ø). Å¢¨Ä ¾¢ÕÁ½õ.....
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- From: Pavalamani Pragasam (@ 220.226.37.89)
on: Wed Jan 7 06:29:47 EST 2004
ºì¾¢Â¢ý Å¢Çì¸ò¾¢ø "Å¢¨Ä" ±ýÀÐ ¾¢ÕÁ½õ ¦Ã¡õÀ§Å ¦À¡Õóи¢ÈÐ(Óó¨¾Â Åâ¸û «¸¢ø ¦º¡ýÉ ¸¡÷ ÌÆÄ¡¸ þÕó¾¡Öõ «øÄÐ ºì¾¢ ¦º¡ýÉ ¸¡Éø ¿£Ã¡ö þÕó¾¡Öõ)-À¾¢ÖìÌ ¦ºùÅ¡Éõ §À¡§Ä Òýɨ¸ Òâž¡ø-«Æ¸¡É ºõÁ¾õ!Å¡ú쨸¢ø Å¡ö¡ø §¾¨Å¢øÄ¡¾ ºó¾÷Àí¸û¾¡ý ±ò¾¨É!
"ÁШâø ÀÈó¾ Á£ý¦¸¡Ê"-«Õ¨ÁÂ¡É À¡ðÎ! ¡áÅÐ ÓØôÀ¡ð¨¼ À¾¢× ¦ºöÔí¸û.
- From: Roshan (@ 220.247.220.188)
on: Wed Jan 7 22:30:23 EST 2004
YES!!!! it's "mathuraiyil paRantha meen kodiyai" ..can any one give the entire lyrics of this song please?
- From: Roshan (@ 220.247.220.188)
on: Wed Jan 7 22:33:18 EST 2004
Shakthi,
Your interpretation of "tharaiyOdu vaanam" is also excellent.
- From: suresh (@ 61.247.248.195)
on: Thu Jan 8 02:11:33 EST 2004
kaathula naracha mudi
kannathila suthuthu suthuthu
suzhiyila padagu pola
en manasu suthuthu suthuthu
adada enakkaga
aruma koranjeega
tharuma magaraaja
thalaya kavuntheega
kalangam vanthaalenna paaru
athukkum nelaanuthaan paeru
ada
manthaiyila ninnaalum nee
veerapaandi theru....
- vairamuthuvin varigal.
Dont need any interpretation.... do they ?
- From: Pavalamani Pragasam (@ 220.226.37.174)
on: Thu Jan 8 07:15:25 EST 2004
þò¾¢Ã¢ìÌ ¬¾Ã× ÜÎÅÐ ¬÷Åò¨¾ «¾¢¸Ã¢ì¸¢ÈÐ!
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