Topic started by G.Imthiyaz Ahmed (@ ss01.ny.us.ibm.com) on Thu Nov 30 20:10:27 .
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Dear Freinds ,

I am attemting to translate some of Bharathiyars Poems from tamil to English and I hope it will be helpful Knowing others about some south indian Saints and the beauty of Tamil poems


Looking wealth for day to day living,
Babbling meaningless stories and
Concerned about the suffering.
Pain in the Heart,
Harming others
In selfish desire.
Aging in agony then
The Death takes over in vain.
Like the ones above, some ignorant people,
Bharathi is not going to loose this battle

-Bharathi



Can any one provide me some english translation of Bharathi Songs???? or can help me in translation?

Regards

Imthiyaz

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• From: Hari Krishnan (@ 203.199.227.109) on: Sat Feb 3 20:34:12
  
  Prof Pasupathy: This is an information which I am not aware of myself! Thank you. But I won't compete for the copy now. I will wait till Sathiya says he has purchased, as he has a greater need and as you say only a few more copies are available.
  
  
• From: Lavanya ... (@ 202.169.129.72) on: Mon Feb 5 07:05:58
  
  Hari Krishnan,
  The 'KaNdu koNdeen' Song is 'Suttum vizichchudarthaan ..'
  
  Lavanya ...
  
  
• From: Pasupathy (@ pas.dialup.cs.toronto.edu) on: Mon Feb 5 09:58:20
  
  Hari: I am now sorry that I did not buy this book!:-))...I think you should buy one asap after ascertaining the no of copies they have...! ( If the chaotic condition in the Indian publishing business prevents and frustrates even people like you in India who follow Bharathi-related books keenly from finding out what has been published and is available on a given subject, you can imagine my frustration when i come on only a few days' visits to India ! When will all the publishers join together to publish a comprehensive list of books in print ...listed by authors and subjects and available in every major bookstore and from which you can order ..I am , of course, dreaming! )
  
  
• From: manathu (@ 203.115.6.184) on: Tue Mar 6 07:38:58
  
  HI IMTHIYAAZ,
  I am proud of you. you have a good thought, Always I have bharathi's poem book, I appreciate you, I am praying for you to do this work succeed.
  
  
• From: G.Imthiyaz Ahmed (@ arkansas.yamato.ibm.com) on: Wed Apr 4 01:18:32
  
  Dear Freinds
  I found this Link , Which has lots of Bharathiyar Songs in Tamil
  
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/9687/
  
  Regards
  
  
• From: G.Imthiyaz Ahmed (@ arkansas.yamato.ibm.com) on: Wed Apr 4 01:22:22
  
  Some More Which can help
  
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/6551/bharathi.htm
  
  Regards
  
  
• From: G.Imthiyaz Ahmed (@ arkansas.yamato.ibm.com) on: Wed Apr 4 01:45:16
  
  Agni Kunchonru Kanden!
  
  I gave birth to a minute fire
  I kept it in a tree hole in a huge Forest
  I see the Forest in Ashes
  Is there a Difference in fire?
  Minute or Big?
  
  Is there in Wisdom?
  
  -Bharathi
  
  
  
• From: donna iannapollo (@ 209-130-138-229.nas3.roc.gblx.net) on: Sat Apr 7 14:10:02
  
  I just found this thread! I sort of disrupted another thread about Bhrathi, begging for English translations. I'm very happy to have found this!
  Thank you!
  
  
• From: Sandhya (@ palo10.pacific.net.sg) on: Tue Apr 17 22:25:31
  
  Hi everybody!!
  
  Though i am a punjabi, i happened to see the film Bharati the other day (with English sub-titles). Needless to say, I was fascinated by the man, his poems and the enigma that was Subramanya Bharati. The songs were very sweet, melodious - unfortunately, I did not understand the meaning - would someone be able to help me find the lyrics and the meaning of the follwing:
  1. Nirpathu ve Nadapathu ve
  2. Neenai Charandainthe
  3.Nallador Veenai
  
  Of course, since i can't read tamil, it would be great if somebody could write the songs out in English for me and also provide the translation. Thanks a lot in advance.
  
  
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• From: G.Imthiyaz Ahmed (@ ) on: Tue Jun 19 22:25:31
  
  Dear Kaliyaperumal,
  
  Art and Wisdom has no barriers, Even Buddha Learned his Wisdom from a Farmer who was playing a string.
  
  Translation work never repress any language instead it works as light to our own wisdom.
  
  If One really wants to help the growth of tamil, it is better to translate international works in to tamil.
  
  Wisdom has no barriers of language , Language Just works as a communication medium. Let us not supress our richness of culture and from rest of the world,By having false assumption and confusion between translation and fanatism.
  
  Regards
  
  
• From: G.Imthiyaz Ahmed (@ ) on: Tue Jun 19 22:25:57
  
  Dear Kaliyaperumal,
  
  Art and Wisdom has no barriers, Even Buddha Learned his Wisdom from a Farmer who was playing a string.
  
  Translation work never repress any language instead it works as light to our own wisdom.
  
  If One really wants to help the growth of tamil, it is better to translate international works in to tamil.
  
  Wisdom has no barriers of language , Language Just works as a communication medium. Let us not supress our richness of culture from rest of the world,By having false assumption and confusion between translation and fanatism.
  
  Regards
  
  
• From: lavakumar (@ ) on: Tue Aug 21 15:35:27
  
  I did'nt know much about Mahakavi BharIathi till I saw the movie on the other day.I am really Impressed.
  
  
• From: lavakumar (@ 203.90.87.131) on: Tue Aug 21 15:39:25
  
  I did'nt know much about Mahakavi Bharathi till I saw the movie on the other day.I am really Impressed.
  
  
• From: Imthiyaz Ahmed (@ oregon.yamato.ibm.com) on: Sun Aug 26 22:44:17
  
  Dear freind ,
  
  I found lots of Bharathiyar poems transulated in one web link..check it out
  
  Lo! He is rising on the altar of our sacrifice, Agni, the All-Will ablaze, and He leaps forth on all sides, chasing the defected shadows of the Dark Realm.
  
  Lo! He ascends unto Heaven, lifting up His golden arms, and Dawn, the maiden, whose form is knowledge, descends with love to meet him, the flame, the flame.
  
  Lo! He opens wide his jaws, the son of strength, the priest of our sacrifice. He has come to drink our claries, and our honies, well-pleased with our works.
  
  
  http://www.chennaionline.com/mahakavi/writings/index.asp
  
  regards