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- From: Roshan (@ 220.247.251.30)
on: Tue Apr 6 08:17:17 EDT 2004
geno,
I never meant to hurt you and I do not want to see you retiring. I just wanted to say that I was also hurt by those words but it's forgotten any way :-).
Please be informed that the first para of my post is a general statement and I must be frank to say, that it has NOTHING to do with you. Though I seconded PP's views I was not trying to emphasize anything on the naiyyaandi of 'PaNpaadum Observer' ( I'm not at all interested about it and you know better) . You have been discussing some serious issues on a very mature and desciplined manner. I do enjoy reading your discussions and I'm sure all the particiapnts here will agree with me.
So please geno, do not try to refrain your self from posting here. It's a kind and humble request from your friend :-). I'm extremely sorry if I had hurt you.
- From: ukw (@ 128.252.181.24)
on: Tue Apr 6 10:36:17 EDT 2004
*That is precisely why i "thought" "paNpAdum observers" comments were a needless "naiyANdi' and i expressed my thoughts.*
ezhavu vIttil kalyaaNa nichiyam paNNiya maathiri irunthathu, antha naiyaaNdi, honestly.
PP and R and their civilized friends Sudharshan TN and Suresh:
If I can make your thread cleaner by leaving for good, I will be the happiest one to do it. I wish you guys get more and more civilized people to discuss so that I can be proud of some of my people. I never get upset with civilized people like you, and I swear this on my mother! Good luck! Have a great day!
- From: suresh (@ 61.95.227.158)
on: Tue Apr 6 10:55:26 EDT 2004
:-)
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- From: Roshan (@ 220.247.251.30)
on: Tue Apr 6 11:01:40 EDT 2004
ukw,
I thought you had better understanding about us especially about me. And you have just picked one issue ie, TN's naiyyANdi and trying to divert the whole thing. There's much more than that ukw. Please go through all your postings from the beginning and see it for your self. I think that would be the best thing. None of us want any one to leave this thread. After all we all have been good friends through out and I'm sure we will remain good friends for ever. Remember, there are some wolves watcing us. I hope you'll understand :-). As you said once, sometimes misunderstandings lead to better understanding, especially among friends:-)
- From: Roshan (@ 220.247.251.30)
on: Tue Apr 6 11:10:30 EDT 2004
suresh,
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- From: ukw (@ 128.252.181.24)
on: Tue Apr 6 11:17:03 EDT 2004
Let me ask you this R:
Y it is always people those who are against your (or PP) view look BAD and uncivilized to you?
Is that because we (you) are all selfish?
I condemn the misinterpretaton of Sudhakar and embaraassment he caused by poorly speculating about Geno and his IP. Why that is not considered as a personal attack, anyway? Is that because we (you) are selfish?
- From: Roshan (@ 220.247.251.30)
on: Tue Apr 6 11:45:48 EDT 2004
ukw,
>> I condemn the misinterpretaton of Sudhakar and embaraassment he caused by poorly speculating about Geno and his IP. Why that is not considered as a personal attack, anyway? Is that because we (you) are selfish? >>
IMHO it has nothing to do with geno personally. I look it as a mistake. Even geno understood it and took it lightly. Why should we fight on this unnecessarily.
And ukw, I'm basically tired of all these issues. It is better if we could stop this at this point.
- From: ukw (@ 128.252.181.24)
on: Tue Apr 6 12:06:51 EDT 2004
*And ukw, I'm basically tired of all these issues. It is better if we could stop this at this point*
OK, :-)))))
- From: ukw (@ 128.252.181.24)
on: Tue Apr 6 13:16:00 EDT 2004
How serious is the problem today in India?
The truth is that no one really knows exact figures because of inadequate surveillance and reporting. The latest official government estimate is 3.5 million at the end of 1998 (for details see NACO Web page http://www.naco.nic.in/naco/). These estimates are based on a statistical analyses starting from the number of cases reported by participating hospitals. The general pattern is that these are underestimates because many of the afflicted don't seek help as they are too poor or too marginalized. As a result, the true numbers maybe as high as 10 million. What is even more scary is that the rate of increase is very high: it could be as large as 1-2 million per year already with the total number of infected doubling every 2-3 years.
Thus, if unchecked, there could be 100 million people that are HIV+ by the year 2010.
- From: ukw (@ 128.252.181.24)
on: Tue Apr 6 13:43:26 EDT 2004
There are many different ways of contracting HIV/AIDS.
There are just as many different ways of preventing HIV/AIDS.
There are many different groups of people exposed to HIV/AIDS.
There are many different ways of discriminating against people living with HIV/AIDS.
The WHYs, HOWs and WHOs change from CULTURE to CULTURE.
That is why we need :
A CULTURALLY-APPROPRIATE RESPONSE TO HIV/AIDS PREVENTION AND CARE.
In terms of HIV/AIDS prevention and care, adopting a cultural approach means that any given population´s cultural references and resources (ways of life, value systems, traditions, beliefs, religions and fundamental human rights) will be considered as key references when designing, implementing and monitoring prevention and care strategies, programmes and projects.
This is an essential component in achieving in-depth and sustainable changes in people´s behaviour, and to give full coherence to preventive education, medical treatment, care and support of infected and affected people.
This is why the joint UNESCO/UNAIDS research project A Cultural Approach to HIV/AIDS Prevention and Care was launched in May 1998, with the aim of stimulating reflection and action for better application of "a cultural approach" in strategies, policies, projects and fieldwork. This strategy engages populations in the fight against HIV/AIDS on the basis of their own cultural references and resources.
- From: ukw (@ 128.252.181.24)
on: Tue Apr 6 14:21:45 EDT 2004
Is SEX_education important to save INDIA??????
Is our conservative culture 'helps' spreeading of AIDS??????????
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And nowhere else is the problem so pressing. Infants and children below the age of 15 form nearly 30 percent of India's 940 million people and form a high proportion of the upcoming sexually active persons exposed to HIV infection.
"Young people in this country are faced with an extraordinary lack of information and taken together with the powerlessness of women, the vulnerability to HIV is high," UNAIDS' Alexander said.
"Unfortunately, AIDS education is denied to young people because the subject is considered too sensitive and controversial for discussion in classrooms," said Asa Andersson, expert in AIDS education with UNESCO.
However, she said several states such as western Maharashtra, central Madhya Pradesh, southern Tamil Nadu and north-eastern Manipur have taken their own initiatives and shown commendable progress.
Education is a state subject in India and although the central government exerts considerable influence through the National Council of Education Research and Training (NCERT), the government has so far failed to pronounce any firm policy.
According to Dr. Balaji, NCERT has so far been playing it safe because of the explosiveness of the issue of sex education which cannot be separated from AIDS education. "Too many people think that neither is compatible with their notion of Indian culture."
Still Balaji said India has come a long way from the day in 1993 when he was nearly assaulted by the principal of a government school in Madhya Pradesh where he and his team were attempting to introduce a course in sex education.
"We perfected a module for training teachers and peer educators after first trying to get biology teachers and even physical education teachers to do the job," he said.
In the end, reason prevailed and in Maharashtra a programme called 'Family Life Education,' dealing with sexuality, respect for the opposite sex and changes in puberty gets to half a million students in 2,300 schools through a non governmental organisation (NGO) called the Sevadham Trust.
According to Dr. S.V. Gore, managing trustee of Sevadham, the project took off largely because of unexpected support from parents who were relieved at not having to discuss the delicate subject of sex with their children.
One of Sevadham's body of 3,000 peer instructors, Gunjun Sah said young people in India were still learning too much from the television channels, pornographic material and from each other and too little from trained and responsible people. Said Dr. Balaji, "While it is natural for young people everywhere to take risks, behaviour modification can only be effected among people under the age of 25 that is why any worthwhile HIV-control programme needs to focus on this group."
Balaji said HIV/AIDS in India is something of a blessing in disguise because it has compelled attention on neglected areas such as equal relationships between men and women and on behavioural problems too easily attributed to the generation gap. (END/IPS/rdr/an/98)
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- From: ukw (@ 128.252.181.232)
on: Tue Apr 6 16:33:25 EDT 2004
No more "mIN santhai" here any more! So no more need for me either!
To all the civilized individuals:
I would greatly appreciate if you all could forget the past and proceed in the good direction and I humbly request all the civilized individuals here not to mention or comment on any of my "mIn sanddthai" posts I had posted here today or earlier. I dont think I ask a lot from you as you are all highly decent and highly OPEN-MINDED individuals here!
Thanks a lot!
Good bye everyone!
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