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- From: Ramki (@ ipgw2.nationalcity.com)
on: Fri Jan 11 15:48:31
Trend this was my initial guess
Simran goes to srilanka for a news coverage, where she is kidnapped by Nandita and Shrikantha(LTTE). Madhavan and the kid goes to Srilanka in search of her.
But this plot could be very similar to Roja and i dont think MR will do this
:)
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.231)
on: Fri Jan 11 15:59:58
Ramki,:)
I think it will be more like the girl(maybe with parents) going in search of the real mother.
What do you think about the "adoption" angle?It will be cheap if Mani shows romantic/love link between Mad and Nan.
The strength of the movie also depends on Sim's character whether it is portrayed just as vulnerable sentimental mother(cliche) or mature family woman trying to decide what is best for the girl/family.
- From: Ramki (@ ipgw2.nationalcity.com)
on: Fri Jan 11 16:08:00
Adoption?They have 2 other kids, so why they have to adopt another one?
Have you watched 'masoom'?(Nasserudin,shabna)
Well there is a possibility of similar plot in this film too(nandita sending her daughter to her real father fearing that the girl might turn into a terrorist )
- From: Ramki (@ ipgw2.nationalcity.com)
on: Fri Jan 11 16:09:42
Btw if you havent watched 'masoom', i will recommend you to do so. It is one of my top 10 hindi movies. It was directed by Shekar kapoor.
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.231)
on: Fri Jan 11 16:13:01
Ramki,
I'm going to assume that Mani is tamil-adapting "Secrets and Lies".Mani has made the girl her central character as opposed to mother in S&L.This is b'cos Mani thought girl(girl's viewpoint) having two mothers could be more effective.The photographer and family character may distract the Tamil viewers so I think that characters wouldn't be there.
This maybe the initial setup?
If i'm going overboard or boring you please let me know.:)
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.231)
on: Fri Jan 11 16:15:33
Ramki,
Masoom?No, I didn't.I watch Hindi movies only that has sub-titles.Is it available that way?
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.231)
on: Fri Jan 11 16:22:37
Ramki,
"Adoption?They have 2 other kids, so why they have to adopt another one?"
There could be a twist as Mad and Sim find it in temple or someplace:) or Nandita giving to them in desperate circumstances(no husband or has to report for terrorist duty).
I think Mani wouldn't miss the possibility of comparing the mentality of mother towards "adopted" vs "own" kid(s).
- From: Ramki (@ ipgw2.nationalcity.com)
on: Fri Jan 11 16:30:21
Kid with 2 mothers has been dealt with many times in tamil cinema(annai, kanna nalamaa, chinna kannamaa). Adding the terrorist angle will not
make much of a difference(from the other movies).
But I totally agree with your assumption that the story will revolve around the kutti girl.
Masoom is an old movie(early 80s). I dont think the video tape will have subtitles.
No im not bored..this is a fun exercise:). Once i posted the story of kaadhala kaadhala(before its release) and everyone believed me:)
- From: Ramki (@ ipgw2.nationalcity.com)
on: Fri Jan 11 16:35:35
I think Mani wouldn't miss the possibility of comparing the mentality of mother towards "adopted" vs "own" kid(s).
Shekar kapoor did this in Masoom. But in this film the adopted kid is her husbands kid(result of an one night stand).
Rangeela fame uRmiLa and Mohabattein fame Hans jugal did the kid roles
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.231)
on: Fri Jan 11 16:53:15
Ramki,
My friend tells me Masoom was a critically acclaimed film.
The interesting novelty in KM could be how Mani transforms(credibly) the character of N.Das after seeing her daughter to accepting her with regard to N.Das's life.And also how(if) the kid takes to her.I think this is Mani's trump card.
All other parts would be "Mani's Masala(like train love or Simran calling Madhavan "da" ,one glossy song ,etc :) )
- From: vijay (@ cnoc-sav-stat242.wireless-isp.net)
on: Fri Jan 11 17:06:58
a similiar theme (adoption etc.) has been handled well by Fazil in "en Bommukutti ammavukku" well back in the eighties..I hope Mani brings a fresh angle to it..
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.231)
on: Fri Jan 11 17:14:09
vijay,
True.That had excellent performances by Suhasini and Raghuvaran.
I think the difference here could be the child going for the mother.
- From: Ramki (@ 205.185.137.3)
on: Fri Jan 11 18:36:16
'en bommukutti ammavukku' is a class movie(The only suhasini movie i ever liked:))
The interesting novelty in KM could be how Mani transforms(credibly) the character of N.Das after seeing her daughter to accepting her with regard to N.Das's life.
My guess: Nandita will return the kid to mad and sim saying that eeLam is more important to her than her kid.
If 'thai paasam' softens her, then we already saw this is 'terrorist':)
(so many terrorist movies nowdays:))
- From: Pal (@ bgp554978bgs.ewndsr01.nj.comcast.net)
on: Sat Jan 12 10:10:55
"Masoom' is one of the wonderful movies in Hindi. It is based on 'Man woman and child' by Martin Sheen.
The same one is taken in malayalam as 'OLangaL' around the same time.
Out of all 3 I liked 'Masoom' better.
KM:
Ramki: You asked Why they need to adopt a child when they have 2 kids.
But She is the eldest. There is a chance they adopted her first.
My guess goes like this.
Simran is a TV reporter who got an assignment in SL to cover Rajiv's murder from SL's angle.
She get captured by LTTE. Somehow befriended with Nadita. Nadita in a dilemma after sudden demise of Srikanth since she is pregnant. She decides that her country is her first choice. Simran asks her not kill the child and promises her to bring her up.
Nandita asks her to reveal the truth to her at her 9th birthday. After that the girl is going in search of her real mother. From then the girl takes over.
- From: Ramki (@ 205.185.136.81)
on: Sat Jan 12 11:38:08
Nandita asks her to reveal the truth to her at her 9th birthday.
similar to kuch kuch hota hai?
quite possible
But from the lyrics of 'nenjil jil jil', i think simran is not aware of the kids truth(note the bold lines)
enadhu sondham nee
enadhu pagaiyum nee
kaadhal malarum nee
karuvil muLLum nee
chella mazhaiyum nee
chinna idiyum nee
enadhu vaanam nee
izhandha siragum nee
naan thooki vaLartha thuyaram nee
- From: Ramki (@ cld-oh3b-52.rasserver.net)
on: Sun Jan 13 14:14:10
This is my final version (guess) of KM script :-)
The film opens with ‘veLLai pookaL’ song(titles appear on the screen), when we are shown a happy family with 3 kids. Of the three, the eldest daughter amrita (the film is titled amrita in telugu) is a very chaalu girl. Like a typical Manirathnam heroine, she likes to play pranks on everyone(drawing meesai on her patti, tying laces of 2 shoes together, fighting with classmates).
There is one old person in the family(either simrans maamiyaar or amma) who doesn’t like this kid. Then comes the birthday of the kid(‘sundari’ song).
One day the kid goes beyond her limit(like destroying the story written by Madhavan)when the old character blurts out the truth ‘namma kudumbathile pirandha kuzhandhaiya irundhaa ippidi pannumaa’
The totally shocked kid presses her parents on what her patti meant by that remark.
Now we are shown the flashback.
(9 aaNdugalukku mun :-)
Simran goes on a news assignment to a small village in Srilanka. She stays with a tamil family that has a loving father(Nasser??) and a young loving couple Srikanth and Nandita das. Nandita is pregnant with Srikanths baby. (‘senore’ song is for sri and Nan)
These people have nothing to do with eeLam or LTTE.
But it so happens one day that srikanth is in the same place of a terrorist attack. Police, suspecting him to be a LTTE, arrests him, tortures and finally kills him.
The same day Nandita gives birth to a baby girl.
The Srilankan army burns the entire village and these people are forced to leave srilanka and go to Rameshwaram as refugees. Simran also travels with them
(vidai kodu engaL naade song comes now)
While they are on the boat, the army fires at the people in the boat. During the shoot out, Nandita loses her father too.
When they land in India, Nandita hands over the baby to Simran saying that she has to avenge the death of her whole family and she doesn’t need the distraction of this kid to achieve her ‘latchiyam’.
Simran, brings up the kid herself against the wishes of mother in law or mother.
Now the flashback is over and the camera zooms on the kids face :-)
The kid wants to find her real mother . The mischievous girl becomes a serious one. she pressures her adopted parents to take her to Srilanka. (female version of nenjil jil jil song is played in the background when we are shown the search for Nandita in refugee camps and in srilanka).
They finally spot her in LTTE camp.
After few senti scenes Nandita explains the importance of her mission to the kid .
‘poidumma poidu poidu
unnai parthukka anbaana appa amma irukaanga aana inge irukkira ellaa kuzhandhaikkum andha adhirshtam ille..indha sandaiyaale anaadhaiyakkapatta pala per irukaanga.
Inime vara kuzhandaigaLaavadhu anadhaiyaagama irukkaathaan , amaidhi pookathaan naanga indha sandai pottitirukkom…nee poidumaa poidu’
Does the kid comeback to India or does she stay back with her mother and join the fight herself?
veLLi thiraiyil kaanga
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.254)
on: Mon Jan 14 10:02:54
Ramki,
That was a good one.:)Hope Mani does something more different,NOM.
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.233)
on: Mon Jan 14 12:41:50
Pal,
I haven't seen "Masoom".But if it is a adaptation of "Man, woman and child"(from Erich Segal's wonderful novel) then Masoom and a Tamil film(don't remember the film name) starring Prabhu,Saritha and Amala should be same.
- From: Ramki (@ ipgw2.nationalcity.com)
on: Mon Jan 14 13:26:38
Trend it is 'poo poovaa poothirukku'.
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