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- From: narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Thu May 11 06:26:31 EDT 2000
Is this the Raga "sketch" relating to Todi.
Can anyone confirm ?
http://www.sermadiras.com/gai14-200025-7z.htm
- From: narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Thu May 11 06:37:53 EDT 2000
Raga Thodi (Hanumathodi)
Raga : Thodi - Hanumathodi
Mela: Hamumathodi
Other names: Nattakokilam Pan
Arohana: S R1 G1 M1 P D1 N1 S || S Ra Gi Ma Pa Dha Ni S
Avarohana: S N1 D1 P M1 G1 R1 S || S Ni Dha Pa Ma Gi Ra S
Rasa: Karuna, bhakthi
Amsa Swaras: M, P
Chaya Swaras: G, M, D
Jeeva Swaras:
Nyasa Swaras: G, M, P, D, N
Kampita Swaras:
Dirgha Swaras:
Murchanakaraka Ragas: R -> Kalyani
G -> Harikambhoji
M -> Natabhairavi
D -> Sankarabharanam
N -> Kharaharapriya
Special Considerations:
P, S Varja Prayogas add beauty
Janti and Dattu Swaras can be used extensilvely
All Swaras can handle gamakas
References: Venitamakhi called it Jana Todi
Sancharas: PD,P DDPMG_ GMP,DPMGR_ SRGMPDND, DNSRS S.NRSSND, PDNSRG,R S_NRRSND PDPDN DNS NSRSNDP MPDN,DPM G_ DDPNG_ GRR, RRSND, N,S_ DNSDD_ R_SD_
Janya Ragas
Ahiri s ra s gi ma p dha ni s s ni Dha p Ma gi ra s
Amritadhanyasi s ra gi ma p ni s s ni p ma gi ra s
Asaveri s ra ma p dha s s ni s p dha ma p ra Gi ra s
Bhanuchandrika s ma dha ni s s ni dha ma gi s
Bhoopalam s ra gi p dha s s dha p gi ra s
Chandrika Todi s gi ma p dha s s dha p ma gi s
Desya Todi s gi ma p dha ni s s ni dha p ma gi ra s
Dhanyasi s gi ma p ni s s ni dha p ma gi ra s
Ghanta (20) s gi ra gi ma p ni s s ni dha p ma gi ra s
Hindolam (20) s ma gi ma dha ni s s ni dha ma gi s
Nagavarali s ra gi ma p dha ni dha p ma gi ra s ni
Prabhupriya s gi ma p dha s s dha p ma gi s
Punnagavarali ni s ra gi ma p dha ni ni dha p ma gi ra s ni
Sudhasamantham dha s ra ma p dha dha p ma gi ra s
Sudha Seemanthini s ra gi ma p dha s s dha p ma gi ra s
Sudha Thodi s ra gi ma dha ni s s ni dha ma gi ra s
List of Compositions
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Sa sa ni dha pa ma ga Jatiswaram Adi Swati Tirunal
Adi aramba Krithi Adi Baluswami Dikshitar
Adum perumane Krithi Adi Periyaswami Thooran
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Dakshayani abhayambika Krithi Rupaka Muthuswami Dikshitar
Darisaname mukhthi Krithi Adi Nilakanta Sivan
Dasaratha Krithi Adi Thyagaraja
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Deva deva mam palaya Krithi Chapu Swati Tirunal
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Dikkuteriyada Krithi Adi Subramania Bharathi
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Emanti mataditivo Krithi Adi Thyagaraja
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Endudaginado Krithi Chapu Thyagaraja
Endugudaya Krithi Triputa Thyagaraja
Enge vaithirundai Krithi Matya Arunachalakavi
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Gati nivani Krithi Adi Thyagaraja
Irvinai yin Krithi Triputa Arunagirinathar
Inbathirunal Krithi Adi Periyaswami Thooran
Innum konjam Krithi Adi Muthuswamikavi
Jesinadella Krithi Adi Thyagaraja
Kadanuvarikai Krithi Adi Thyagaraja
Kadatre rada Krithi Adi Thyagaraja
Kali teera vandarul Krithi Misra Chapu Koteeswara Iyer
Kaliteerumo Krithi Adi Papanasam Sivan
Kaikisianda Krithi Rupaka Kavikunjara Bharathi
Kapalambike Krithi Rupaka Ambi Dikshitar
Kamalanabha Krithi Rupaka Keasava Pillai
Kandakumara Krithi Adi Lakshmanan Pillai
Karikeya gangeya Krithi Desadi Papanasam Sivan
Karunakataksha Krithi Rupaka Nilakanta Sivan
Karunanidhi ilalo Krithi Adi Syama Sastri
Karunjudavamma Krithi Adi Thyagaraja
Kodinadalu Krithi Adi Thyagaraja
Koluvamaragada Krithi Adi Thyagaraja
Kripalayam Krithi Adi Mysore Sadasiva Rao
Kunram kudikonda Krithi Adi Papanasam Sivan
Mahaganapathim Krithi Rupaka Muthuswami Dikshitar
Mamakueswaram Krithi Eka G N Balasubramanian
Manamadanguvade Krithi Adi Muthaiah Bhagavatar
Mandharadhara Krithi Rupaka Swati Tirunal
Mangala Nayiki Krithi Adi Papanasam Sivan
Meenalochani Amba Krithi Rupaka Muthaiah Bhagavatar
Mumuduravana Krithi Jhampa Thyagaraja
Nalumaindu vasal Krithi Adi Arunagirinathar
Nannu brochutaku Krithi Adi Syama Sastri
Narayanam namata Krithi Adi Mysore Vasudevachar
Nidaya ravale Krithi Rupaka Thyagaraja
Ninne namminau Krithi Chapu Syama Sastri
Ninnuvinasikhamu Krithi Rupaka Thyagaraja
Nivanti dhaivamu Krithi Adi Thyagaraja
Pachiyana turumeni Krithi Adi Muthaiah Bhagavatar
Palayamam Brihadeshwari Krithi Rupaka Muthuswami Dikshitar
Paratpara Raghuvira Krithi Adi Mysore Vasudevachar
Paril nalvazhikaattu Krithi Adi Papanasam Sivan
Pathitha Pavanarama Krithi Adi Papanasam Sivan
Rajagopala Krithi Adi Papanasam Sivan
Rajuvedala Krithi Rupaka Thyagaraja
Ramachandraya namasthe Krithi Chapu Muthuswami Dikshitar
Raminikku mannan Krithi Misra Chapu Arunachalakavi
Re manasa Krithi Rupaka Thyagaraja
Samodam kalayami Krithi Adi Swati Tirunal
Sankaranai tiduthadu Krithi Rupaka Gopalkrishna Bharathi
Sarasinabha murare Krithi Chapu Swati Tirunal
Sri Krishna Bhaja Krithi Adi Muthuswami Dikshitar
Sri Ramachandra dasa Krithi Adi Swati Tirunal
Sri Subramaniam Krithi Adi Muthuswami Dikshitar
Sri Venkateshdam Krithi Adi Poochi Srinivasa Iyengar
Sri Venkateshwaram Krithi Rupaka Ramnad Srinivasa Iyengar(Poochi ?)
Sundaramaindan Krithi Rupaka Kavikunjara Bharathi
Tamasham en swami Krithi Adi Papanasam Sivan
Tanikai valar Krithi Khanda Chapu Papanasam Sivan
Tanikesanaippunindu Krithi Adi Papanasam Sivan
Tappibrathiki Krithi Rupaka Thyagaraja
Thyagarajagurum Krithi Triputa Balamuralikrishna
Undu kulaidaiva Krithi Adi Papanasam Sivan
Unnadime Krithi Adi Periyaswami Thooran
Varuga vittenum Krithi Adi Arunagirinathar
Vedaranyeswarajya Krithi Adi Muthuswami Dikshitar
Viravasantha Krithi Chapu Ramaswami Dikshitar
Yaredirthal nan Krithi Adi Lakshmanan Pillai
Pankajaksha tava pada Navaratnamalika Rupaka Swati Tirunal
Sundarangakanta Navaratnamalika Rupaka Swati Tirunal
Chalynduka Pada Adi Kshetragna
Echhato nnado Pada Adi Kshetragna
Elane vadu Pada Triputa Kshetragna
Ella arumaiyum Pada Rupaka Ghanam Krishnayyar
Emanti namma Pada Triputa Kshetragna
Imduge paga Pada Jhampa Kshetragna
Marache nemo Pada Triputa Kshetragna
Mrokkera chalamelka Pada Adi Kshetragna
Tagadu Pommana Pada Adi Kshetragna
Taye Yasode Pada Adi Oothakadu Venkatasubbayyar
Dani samajendra Padavarna Adi Swati Tirunal
Poopamujuchi Padavarna Adi Ramaswami Dikshitar
Pankajakhanam Utsavaprabandha Rupaka Swati Tirunal
Ernanapai Varna Adi Patnam Subramania Iyer
Kanakangi Varna Ata Pallavi Gopala Iyer
Saradisa Varna Chapu Swati Tirunal
Sariganidhani Varna Adi Ramaswami Dikshitar
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- From: Nadopasaka (@ aappp31.buffnet.net)
on: Thu May 11 06:59:16 EDT 2000
I have always felt that most ragas go up and down their scales, but Todi manages to slither sideways.
That Kshetragana produced up to 8 padas ( typically excrutiatingly intricate ) is perhaps also an indication of the fecundity of Todi. Based also on the above list although Tyg. has 23, I am surprised there are none listed above for Purandaradasa.
- From: narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Thu May 11 07:02:24 EDT 2000
Nado:
Original Ragas of Purandara Dasa, Narayanatheerthar krithis are not known. The list covers only krithis known for sure...
- From: Ravi Kiran (@ 202.54.26.125)
on: Thu May 11 07:14:53 EDT 2000
nado,
i remember tvg mentioning that ariyAkudi knew
around 40 krithis in todi.
todi is perhaps the best representation of our
carnatic music.
it is probably impossible to sing a rAga in todi
just by relying on the scale alone.
it relies completely on keLvi gnyAnam.
it is to be sung only using the pidis that have
been time-tested.
srikantan mama has said that the original tunes
of purandara dasa drew extensively from todi,
kambhoji and other rakthi ragas.
the trinity has enriched todi considerably - and
each of them has an unforgettable piece in it.
thyagu, as usual, leads the pack.
MD's todi krithis are relatively less popular.
SS's "ninne namminnanu.." is unforgettable.
but then, so are most of thyagaraja's.
as already discussed in another thread, ettappa
bhoopathi's gajavadana is also a splendid creation
in this raga.
and for all those TNS fans out there, todi is a
raga close to TNS's heart :-))))!!
- From: Nadopasaka (@ aappp31.buffnet.net)
on: Thu May 11 07:15:49 EDT 2000
You are right, Narayanan. Still, Todi being a real old raga must have been favored by PDasa, NarayanaTirtha, BRamdas etc. Maybe Lakshman has some additional references.
- From: Nadopasaka (@ aappp31.buffnet.net)
on: Thu May 11 07:28:09 EDT 2000
Thanks RaviKiran. There is also supposed to be a Kamalambike Todi by MD.
- From: Ravi Kiran (@ 202.54.26.125)
on: Thu May 11 07:29:45 EDT 2000
it is interesting to note that most of the todi
krithis in M Chapu follow a similar varna mettu.
eg: kali theera, enduku dayaraaduraa, emi jesitemi,
ninne namminnanu(not quite though, but still..)
- From: Ravi Kiran (@ 202.54.26.125)
on: Thu May 11 07:37:28 EDT 2000
SSI has sung a very different sangathi in tOdi
in the divine unison tape.
he has used the "m g s" phrase on 2-3 occassions.
it sounds so much like suddha dhanyAsi.
is this sangathi sung by anyone else?
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