Topic started by Nadopasaka (@ aappp32.buffnet.net) on Fri Mar 10 11:43:41 .
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Is there some code of conduct for kutcheries ?
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- From: Narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Thu Mar 23 05:35:41 EST 2000
They broke up several years back.
Sivakumar's MD site has a good recording of "Hasthivadhanaya" in Navaroj.
- From: nick haynes (@ host.sumitomomarine.co.uk)
on: Thu Mar 23 06:12:05 EST 2000
If people would recognise that all users here do not understand Thamil I would be grateful.
Perhaps some things just do not translate? then I must put up with not understanding: but a translation would be appreciated!
- From: Narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Thu Mar 23 06:36:26 EST 2000
Sanjay Subramaniam does not accept to sing in Marriage concerts.. Any comments on this..
- From: Ramji (@ 205.177.170.141)
on: Thu Mar 23 06:40:25 EST 2000
This request of mine is perhaps more relevant to certain other Carnatic music threads than this one. Wherever technical
expressions are used, is it possible to add a little explanation for the lay ears? or, is there a source ( web or elsewhere)where
tech words are explained?
Nado, what ( or who) is MD?
- From: Ramji (@ 205.177.170.141)
on: Thu Mar 23 06:43:36 EST 2000
O, I just realized MD is Muthusamy Dikshadar.
- From: Nadopasaka (@ aappp32.buffnet.net)
on: Thu Mar 23 06:55:44 EST 2000
Couples may have great difficulty relating on later anniversaries to SS renditions as 'oh, honey ! thats our song'.
- From: nandini (@ 1cust45.tnt9.charlotte.nc.da.uu.net)
on: Thu Mar 23 13:54:32 EST 2000
siva:
I didn't know if anybody here would recognize if i wrote Guruvayoorappan samaj.....and the person is not Bhaskar....its Ramesh Swamy.
- From: IR (@ dialup-63.210.146.10.boston1.level3.net)
on: Thu Mar 23 14:26:20 EST 2000
does not matter whether it is bhaskar or Ramesh, but job well done :)
- From: Nadopasaka (@ afppp21.buffnet.net)
on: Thu Mar 23 16:01:19 EST 2000
N. wrote >>> ...force people to listen to the thani <<<
May need both bhaskar and Ramesh ( and others ) to accomplish this. Intelligent people make better lovers. Is it basically ignorance of the intricacies of talams that drives the pre-'tani' exodus ?
- From: Nadopasaka (@ adppp10.buffnet.net)
on: Thu Mar 23 17:06:40 EST 2000
It just occurred to me that maybe TK Murthy is the only so-called SangeetKalanidhi percussionist ?( please correct if wrong ) hmmm...this may also be a symptom..
- From: nandini (@ chrla020-1014.splitrock.net)
on: Thu Mar 23 22:40:37 EST 2000
Hasn't Palghat Raghu got it yet?
- From: Nadopasaka (@ adppp46.buffnet.net)
on: Thu Mar 23 23:29:50 EST 2000
Not sure. Maybe Palghat Mani also ??
What are the rules, if any, on 'planned intermissions' during kutcheries ? I cannot recollect seeing any artiste get off the stage once they begin. ( seems against the laws of physiology for the 3-4 hour concerts ! )
- From: Siva (@ firestorm3.imrglobal.co.jp)
on: Fri Mar 24 02:44:18 EST 2000
Nandini:
I do not think Palghat Raghu is a "Sangeetha Kalanidhi".
I had heard from someone that BMK once gave an interval before the main song and told people that they could very weel have their bladder break or a walk at that point rather than getting up during the thani.
- From: Narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Fri Mar 24 07:01:31 EST 2000
Palghat Mani Iyer got his sangeetha Kalanidhi in 1966.
- From: n (@ chrla020-0970.splitrock.net)
on: Fri Mar 24 14:31:31 EST 2000
What about Ummayaalpuram Sivaraaman? Has he got the Sangeetha Kalanidhi? He is one of my Favs.
- From: IR (@ columbo.lifeworks.com)
on: Fri Mar 24 15:16:24 EST 2000
no nandini - Sivaraman Sir is yet to get SK ::))
- From: Nadopasaka (@ akppp95.buffnet.net)
on: Sat Mar 25 12:48:23 EST 2000
Has any modern CM kutchery hall been designed based on acoustic principles ( reflection of sound, stereo-surround effect, sound absorption by fabrics, wall features ) ?
The Globe theater which first presented Shakespeare in the 1600's had some such understanding, to carry unaided voice/dialogue. And Greek excavations show a characteristic curved amphitheatre.
I have seen artistes dividing up the 'intensity' and 'mike' placements based on the instrument (and accompanists enthusiasm). e.g. RaviKiran's mellow gottuvadyam has to struggle to be heard sometimes.
- From: Ramji (@ 205.177.170.138)
on: Sun Mar 26 08:35:54 EST 2000
Zakir Hussein keeps giving accoustic instructions almost throughout the kutchery.
- From: Narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Wed Mar 29 08:51:03 EST 2000
A popular (?) vidhwan threatened to commit suicide by hanging himself on the Sabha premises if he was not awarded the prestigious S******a K*******i award. He was indeed honoured (?) with the award that year. Any comments ? guesses ??
- From: IR (@ columbo.lifeworks.com)
on: Wed Mar 29 09:42:06 EST 2000
:::))) Narayanan - that was probably the only way he would be awarded SK ::))
- From: Narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Wed Mar 29 09:57:13 EST 2000
Very true :::))))
There is another joke concerning his name and 2 mylapore "mamis". This was very popular among YACMites of 1996 season. I cannot not openly spell out the joke as it may hurt people's feelings...can send it in a mail though...
- From: IR (@ columbo.lifeworks.com)
on: Wed Mar 29 10:00:28 EST 2000
:::))) please do
- From: IR (@ columbo.lifeworks.com)
on: Wed Mar 29 10:05:55 EST 2000
narayanan: please mail it along with DKJ's songs ::))
- From: Narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Wed Mar 29 10:17:51 EST 2000
Will do in another 5 mts...:::)))
- From: Vasu (@ s02.austin.ibm.com)
on: Wed Mar 29 10:24:47 EST 2000
Naryanan:
i dont know who is that guy. is it possible to specify his name here? Thx
- From: Nadopasaka (@ aappp29.buffnet.net)
on: Wed Mar 29 11:52:45 EST 2000
Is this 'maniac' still with us ? If he is I would like to ask him why he would choose hanging as opposed setting himself on fire. That can be equally compelling, visually.
I hope, though, this whole episode is not some stunt meant to artificially increase the 'value' of the SangitaKalanidhi award. There are many other sabhas with similar awards. All their kutcheries may now become equipped with gallows, rope and tinder-boxes, along with microphones.
- From: IR (@ dialup-63.210.129.229.boston1.level3.net)
on: Wed Mar 29 20:16:06 EST 2000
>>>"All their kutcheries may now become equipped with gallows, rope and tinder-boxes, along with microphones."<<<< :::::)))) Nado
- From: Siva (@ firestorm3.imrglobal.co.jp)
on: Thu Mar 30 02:46:38 EST 2000
If we look at the past few period's SKs they have not been there to come to the next year Music Academy...DKJ, Santhanam etc.. Probably there would be a time when people would threaten to hang themselves if they are awarded a SK??????
- From: Narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Thu Mar 30 03:15:16 EST 2000
Nado:
>>>"All their kutcheries may now become equipped with gallows, rope and tinder-boxes, along with microphones."<<<<
:::))))
The "maniac" is still at 'large'...
He is the principal of the Music Academy Music College ::)) and calls himself(!?!) an authority in MD krithis :::(((((
.... (poor Jambupathe...refer to posting in the other thread about this...)
- From: Narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Thu Mar 30 04:56:15 EST 2000
Siva:
Oldest Living Sangeeetha Kalanidhi is Semmangudi. He got it in 1947. There is a short story behind this ..dont know if this is true...
Semmangudi is the person who usually decides who the next Kalanidhi is. In 1946 when he was asked to preside, it seems he refused to accept saying that his guru Maharajapuram Sr is not a SK yet and it will not be good to "overtake" is guru. Mah Sr was awarded SK that year and Semmangudi was awarded the title in 1947. True ???
- From: IR (@ dialup-63.210.153.66.boston1.level3.net)
on: Thu Mar 30 06:22:52 EST 2000
>>"The "maniac" is still at 'large'... "<< ::::)) Narayanan - you have given enuf clue ::)))
- From: Narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Thu Mar 30 06:36:02 EST 2000
IR:
Got the file ??? Joke ???
- From: IR (@ dialup-63.210.129.228.boston1.level3.net)
on: Thu Mar 30 07:12:08 EST 2000
yes narayanan - thanks a lot - I just looked at my e-mail and have responded :::)))) that was so funnnyyyyyy :::))
- From: Nadopasaka (@ aeppp47.buffnet.net)
on: Thu Mar 30 08:04:01 EST 2000
As an aside: S. Chandrashekhar (Ramans nephew who also won the Nobel a few years back ) did the work for it almost 50 years ago. He had many students who had used his ideas as the basis of much their work and gone on to win the Nobel prize themselves. Finally they were so embarrassed that they decided to give it to him.
Such titles are naturally highly political now. Maybe they should award them posthumously ?
Anyway maybe Academy should wait until the artiste is a complete fossil, award the SK , then make them 'walk the plank' (by any method of their choice) Like a parting gift.
- From: Siva (@ firestorm3.imrglobal.co.jp)
on: Fri Mar 31 03:26:45 EST 2000
Narayanan:
What is this "Joke" Can u mail it
- From: narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Fri Mar 31 04:08:48 EST 2000
Siva:
Sure...
- From: Ramji (@ 205.177.170.138)
on: Fri Mar 31 05:56:15 EST 2000
Should we change the name of this thread to "malpractices"?:-))
Who is the President of the Music college?
- From: Narayanan (@ 195.224.238.98)
on: Fri Mar 31 07:01:04 EST 2000
Ramji:
The same guy who threatened to commit suicide :::::)))))) Will send a mail to you...
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