Origins of Carnatic and Hindustani Music : Are they different?

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Origins of Carnatic and Hindustani Music : Are they different? Origins of Carnatic and Hindustani Music : Are they different?

Topic started by Vishvesh Obla (@ www.gltg.com) on Thu Oct 26 09:42:46 .
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Hi friends,
I have a few questions as regards the origins of our classical music. Are the roots of Carnatic music and Hindustani music the same? Sorry, if it is a weird question. After looking at the various discussions in the threads related to Indian and Tamil History, I feel it could be better if we could look at the issue in Music too. My contention is that we have had a homogenous culture as expressed in our literature, philosophy and religion. As a musician myself, I have found the same spirit behind our classical music too. But I felt it is still better if someone could throw some light as to the origins of our musical system in its two primary manifestations : Carnatic and Hindusthani.

vishvesh

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From: Karthik (@ proxy2-external.bvrtn1.or.home.com) on: Sat Dec 2 19:15:01

Surprising no one bothered to answer it. I am also interested in finding out the differences in Hindustani and carnatic.
From: robin (@ 202.54.93.13) on: Sun Dec 3 04:18:00 EST 2000

Hi friends the history of music has already been discussed in this forum please read that thread.

http://www.forumhub.com/indcmusic/343.01.01.21.html

the source of what i have written is the book called 'The music of man' by Yehudi Menuhin, on e of the greatest violinst of all time.

yes the origins of Hindustani music and carnatic music are different.

but that has to be taken only as that not as a source of conflict of beliefs. I have seen in the history section of this forum where people fight over their personal beliefs and not history (as a collection of recorded facts of progression).
Just in case this thread becomes chaotic. Please donot make it so. lets accept history they way it is, whether we like it or no and then move on and use its understanding to appreciated better. Sorry for the prosaic paragraph but just in case as I said!!
From: Vijay Tharma (@ ip23.pontiac10.mi.pub-ip.psi.net) on: Sun Dec 3 16:10:50 EST 2000

http://www.indiamine.com/pages/culture/music/hindustani.html
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Hindustani classical music, as it is known today, is the result of a long process of the integration of many diverse cultural influences in India..

Until about the 13th century India boasted of only one strain of music. The divergence into Hindustani classical music of North India, and Carnatic classical music of South India, owes itself mainly to the Muslim invasion of North India.

What finally evolved as Hindustani music was a fusion of Turko-Persian musical elements into the original fundamentals of Indian music, whereas Carnatic music, which was nurtured in the South, and therefore comparatively free of the influence of the invasions which occurred in the North, zealously guarded and protected its original nature .

This influence brought in its wake a changed perspective in the style of Northern Indian music, rather than in its structure. Not being part of religious ritual it was necessarily fostered outside the places of worship; hence an element of physical pleasure, particularly of the courtier, became predominant.
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