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He is indeed one of the Greatest Composers in Music History. I am in a process of collecting and learning his works (trying to !!!). This page is for posting information about references to audio clips of Dikshitar krithis so that it will be of much use to Dikshitar "fans" like myself. |
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- From: Nadopasaka (@ ahppp13.buffnet.net)
on: Thu Aug 10 10:58:31 EDT 2000
ps. Raga mudra is found in all Tiruttani Guruguha vibhaktis and quite a few of the Tiruvarur Ganapati ( possibly a vibhakti set ). Raga mudra is absent from shriranjani in Ramachandra vibhakti etc. This may mean that the choice of Yadukula Kamboji in Tyagaraja vibhakti or Todi in some of the others is deliberate. These sets are considered differently from the Guruguha. Kmmlmba and Ganapati Vibhakti.
The next extrapolation from this suggests there are no krities in YadukulaKamboji by MD with raga mudra, implying no MORE krities in YadKamboji ( i.e. yet to be discovered ) despite what may be found in AmbiDikshitars vault !!
- From: Nadopasaka (@ akppp59.buffnet.net)
on: Thu Aug 10 12:57:33 EDT 2000
OK more on MD :-)),
The Samashti Charanas in Mela raagas are found in the following melas posted some time ago by PPN. There appear to be 54 ( out of 72 )the mela #'s being
3, 4,5,6,7,10,
11, 12,13, 14,17, 18,
19, 21, 23, 25,27, 30
32, 33, 34, 35,36, 37
38, 39, 40, 41, 42,43
44, 46, 47, 48, 49 ,50
51, 54, 55, 57, 58,59
60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 66
67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72
Nine of these #'s 4,23,36,39,46,57,58,64 and 70 have regular krities in addition to samashti charanas.
Out of the remaining 45 melas, three( #'s 35,59,69 ) have two samashti charanas each.
Therefore it appears that in 42 asampurna melas, MD HAS ONLY ONE KRITI AND IT IS A SAMASHTI CHARANA !! This might indicate lack of interest in these raagas. Was completing the asampurna mela scheme a chore for our hero ?!? I have only heard two of these Shwetaganapatim and JayatishivaBhavani and they are fine enough not to support this conclusion.
- From: Nadopasaka (@ ahppp3.buffnet.net)
on: Thu Aug 10 13:35:14 EDT 2000
ps. many of these samashti charanas in the 42 odd melas take off on ( either begin with or use within the fisrt phrase ) the raga name=mudra itself. This is interesting and might indicate the composers priorities/motivations.
- From: Nadopasaka (@ akppp40.buffnet.net)
on: Thu Aug 10 17:01:19 EDT 2000
Todi mudra, a-hantadi is actually close to Jantodi of asampurna scheme verbally, actually sound like this in one GNB version, if not careful.
The Yad. Kamboji non-appearance of raaga-mudra (yet) and the use in several deity Vibhakti sets, but not the important Devi-Guruguha-Ganapati triad is probably a way to set these deities apart. some convoluted logic , I admit.
- From: Nadopasaka (@ adppp28.buffnet.net)
on: Fri Aug 11 15:21:31 EDT 2000
The MD Akhilandeswaryai Arabhi kriti has some rather unusual features , being very long and the repeated use of 'chakreswaryai and yoginyai'. Is this an undisputed MD kriti ? If so is there a pattern in the choice of words ?? ( There has been some rumbling regarding another akhilandeswari kriti in dwijavanti )
- From: Rajani (@ 202.151.212.22)
on: Fri Aug 11 19:38:36 EDT 2000
I think the "vam" in Tyagaraja... refers to some mantra-akshara of Shiva, like "gam ganapate"
- From: Rajani (@ 202.151.216.52)
on: Fri Aug 11 21:08:08 EDT 2000
Re : Akilandeshwari - Arabhi
The same Chakras that are referred to in Kam.Nav are referred here too, and in the same order. The "Shrividya" upasana (with its Nava-avaranas,Chakras and various Yoginis) must be referred here.
The jujavanti kriti too, has only general and metaphysical attributes and no references to the Kshetra(Thiruvanaikka - referred to as Samajatavi in Jampupate) or to Jambulingeshwara.
May be the Shrichakras that were installed by Shri Adi Shankara as the ear-ornaments (Tatankas) of Akhilandeshwari, did the trick, transporting MD to another plane!
Another interesting info about Thiruvanaikka (which is now part of Trichy) is that Madurai and Thiruvanaikka are considered the sites of Mantrini and Dandini , who are the Minister and Commander of Shri Lalita Tripurasundari ( actually diff. forms of Herself)
- From: Nadopasaka (@ adppp5.buffnet.net)
on: Fri Aug 11 23:01:09 EDT 2000
That is exactly right, Rajani. Even the Sri Rajarajeswari 'Mantra' kriti in Madhyamavati uses each of the words that appear in each of the Kmmlmba Nvvrna. e.g Samkshobhana, sarva rogahara, sarvaanandamaya , saubhagya dayaka etc.
Zapping the ear-fluid or shifting its location can lead to problems of balance, might make it easy to lose orientation. probably some techniques known to Tantrics and Devi upasakas.
- From: Nadopasaka (@ aappp25.buffnet.net)
on: Sat Aug 12 14:48:26 EDT 2000
Rajani, It would appear that the Begada 'Shri Mata shiva' is also related to this Tiruvanaikka via its usage of Jambupate, Shrichakra and the starting lines of Pallavi, anupallavi using Lalita Shsrnama names 1 and 2.
The Lalita Shsrnaama provides possibly also for example 'Karpura Vitika', the betel leaf with camphor !! in Kmlmba Kamboji.
- From: Rajani (@ 202.151.212.7)
on: Sat Aug 12 19:32:31 EDT 2000
The Sahana KamNav kriti has a few rare names directly from the "Lalita Trishati" ( which is considered a logical extension of Lalita Sahas.)
"Hreemkara-vipina-harinyam" etc.
- From: Nadopasaka (@ ahppp46.buffnet.net)
on: Sat Aug 12 22:52:53 EDT 2000
PPN's list of MD Subrahmanya krities seemed not to include Tiruvatishwaram in Gmkkrya and an anandaBhairavi Dandayudha. Where might this Tiruvati be located ?
Also 'nilotpalaamba-anukula-tara' may be some form of extreme indicator for the still troublesome Yadukula Kamboji mudra in 'Tyagaraja bhajare'.
- From: pANini (@ 202.54.33.21)
on: Sun Aug 13 02:26:45 EDT 2000
one more analysis of MD krithis:
There are very few kshetra krithis n which MD has
not sund on the goddess;kivalur,arunachala etc stand out..esp all the other panca linga krithis have songs on the lord and the consort.esp jambupate and akilandeshwari are both set in hindustani ragas.
any other kshetras like that??
- From: Nadopasaka (@ aeppp8.buffnet.net)
on: Sun Aug 13 08:49:49 EDT 2000
What about Tiruchendur and Tirutani, the Skanda sthalas, and Mannargudi, Srirangam and Pulivalam ? I think Parvatavardhini covers Rameswaram=Dhanuskodi ?
- From: Nadopasaka (@ aeppp8.buffnet.net)
on: Sun Aug 13 09:19:40 EDT 2000
Narayanan, you may have typed in Balasubramanyam-Vedavalli instead of Shri Venkatagirishamalokaye-MLV for the Surati in the archived list ? Unless I missed this. Hope you can archive the audio when convenient ?
The latest ShriRanjani, ShriDumdurge is remarkable for its closeness to BrochevarevarE. This might have to do with DKJ and SSI renderings rspctly.
- From: narayanan (@ dyn135-ras40.screaming.net)
on: Sun Aug 13 11:30:02 EDT 2000
Nadopasaka:
Both krithis were featured. Probably you missed them.
- From: Nadopasaka (@ afppp41.buffnet.net)
on: Sun Aug 13 14:04:35 EDT 2000
Narayanan, Yup, I guess so. The archive list ( of prior kritis ) doesn't seem to carry the MLV-ShriVenkatagiri one, though. Is there any likelyhood of getting to hear the Varali Lambodaraya Samashti Charana kriti ?
- From: Nadopasaka (@ aeppp16.buffnet.net)
on: Sun Aug 13 18:25:35 EDT 2000
Other seemingly non-Devi related MD Ksetras ( in addition to the others above ) may be Parashurama ksetra of RaktaGanapatim . (Parasurama reference in Tamrparni etc. of Hemavati is probably a different location ) Also Tirupati-Tirumala of Venkatagirishamalokaye. All these need to be checked, however.
- From: narayanan (@ 194.193.249.33)
on: Mon Aug 14 05:22:37 EDT 2000
Nado:
The archive list has been set right now :-) Thanks for pointing out.
Reg the krithi Lambodaraya - Varali, unfortunately i dont have a concert recording. The one i have got is a home recording ..will let you know.
Krithi of the week this week at http://dikshitar.homepage.com is
Ehi Annapoorne - Punnagavarali - Vijay Siva
- From: Rajani (@ 202.151.216.42)
on: Mon Aug 14 07:05:45 EDT 2000
What is the Kshetra of the Gamakakriya kriti "Navaratna malinim" ?
- From: Nadopasaka (@ akppp60.buffnet.net)
on: Mon Aug 14 11:08:09 EDT 2000
Vaithiswaran = Vaidyanatha ksetra ? via 'bhagamalinakuli' also in Balambikayah,
- From: Nadopasaka (@ akppp6.buffnet.net)
on: Mon Aug 14 13:10:08 EDT 2000
a 'bila dwaaraanta madhyasthita' appears in the KanchiKamakoti related Sumadyuti = S'madmam. Still not clear whether this 'bila' or 'bhila' re: bilahari
- From: K. Shyam (@ net231-242.its.yale.edu)
on: Mon Aug 14 18:08:20 EDT 2000
Rajani: Couldn't find the kshetra for Navaratna malinim in KSI's book.
Nadopasaka:
Re: Bilahari or Bhilahari
The ragalakshana sloka found in KSI's book has it as Bilahari.
Vaithiswaran koil does indeed appear to be Vaidyanatha kshetra (ref: charanam of "Angaarakamaashrayaamyaham")
- From: Nadopasaka (@ aappp13.buffnet.net)
on: Mon Aug 14 22:53:27 EDT 2000
KShyam, I think almost all of the Balambika set ( possibly a Vibhakti-based set ) are set in Vaidyanatha ksetra. I was trying to fix the Gamakakriya (Navaratna) to this using the common 'saffron'? reference ( bhagamaalinee-nakulee )
The Tuesday Navagraha reference to a Ksetra is a bit puzzling but not if a generic Vaidyalinga is involved, since an ailment was reportedly at the center of this set. The other Navagrahas do not carry any Ksetra mudra ( I guess ) . It is interesting to speculate on the order in which the Navagrahas may have been composed.
- From: Rajani (@ 202.151.216.222)
on: Mon Aug 14 22:54:33 EDT 2000
Panini : I think Sankarankoil and Ratnagiri also have MDKritis only on Swami and none on Devi : on Gomathi and Aralakesi(means curly-haired :-)) respectively.
Shyam: Where is this "Srigandharanyam" referred to as the site of "SriVancchanatham" ?
- From: Ramaprasad (@ proxy1.lsil.com)
on: Mon Aug 14 23:11:25 EDT 2000
Narayanan,
In your Kriti of the week you've mentioned
Ehi AnnapoornE as MD's last kriti. Is it
documented in SSP or somewhere else ?
Do you have any recording of "mAyE tvam" sung
in "real" Tarangini (Janya of 26) If so can you
feature it sometime in KOW ?
TIA
-Ramaprasad K V
- From: Nadopasaka (@ aappp13.buffnet.net)
on: Mon Aug 14 23:15:09 EDT 2000
Rajani, this may be equal to Vedaaranya of Bauli Parvatiparmeswarau. Bhu-Kailasa may however be claimed by more than one place.
Flipping Paaninis question around, are there any Ksetras where ONLY Devi is addressed by MD ?
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